Michael B. Jordan

Yeah.

Raphael Sadiq and Brittany Howard and Rhiannon Giddens and Shaboosie.

I'm not putting him in the great musician class yet, but like he's good at his job.

You know, Kirstone Kingfish Ingram was up there.

Buddy Guy didn't even play.

He just stood around.

Right.

It just was, it was, it was extremely...

impressive just to have those people up there kind of like contributing five seconds of music to this you know 90 second operation but you could feel in the room that those people were at a at a concert right and they were reacting like they were seeing you know the people they were seeing on stage on stage for free um so yeah i don't i mean 5 10 15 50 years from now i will say

that one battle after another, and I don't know if this is, this feels like it might be true in your life too, Bill, given the amount of time that I know you've talked the least about Sinners.

And almost certainly one battle after another, you live in Los Angeles, like a town that has such long, I don't know when to say ambivalent feelings about Paul Thomas Anderson, but you know, I mean, like the question always was, you know, who's going to make the next one studio-wise?

And like, are the movies going to make any money?

And so I spent

I spent a year in chain, almost a year now talking about sinners.

I've never had the same conversation twice.

And I don't imagine I'm going to have the same conversation in five years talking about sinners.

And one battle after another, I don't know, we should talk about this.

I feel like, you know, of all PTA movies, this is perhaps the most, at least in my life, this is the most contested one.

And it's the one where the contest for me at least feels like it just really sucks to have these contests.

arguments with people to pit movies against each other yeah well to pit those two movies against each other but also the camp of people who really feel like one battle after another is just really doing black women dirty yeah and is operating on this continue I mean you and I have talked about this particular I thought there was the biggest flaw of the film question before yeah but see I the my thing about what is going on in this movie is