Michael Barbaro

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro.

This is The Daily.

Just hours before a federal immigration officer killed Renee Good in her car, the Minneapolis police chief warned that a tragedy involving ICE and the people of his city seemed inevitable.

Today, I speak with that police chief, Brian O'Hara, about his experience with ICE in Minneapolis and why, in his mind, the president's campaign of mass deportation is undermining faith in police departments like his.

It's Monday, January 12th.

Chief O'Hara, thank you for making time for us on a Sunday, no less, and a very busy weekend for you.

The past 48 hours.

were pretty extraordinary from the perspective of an outsider.

There were these enormous protests.

I believe you yourself ended up in the middle of one of them.

I've tried to make sense of the video.

I mean, what has this been like for you?

They believed ICE agents were staying there, right?

Well, you're hinting at all this.

The reason we're talking to you, of course, is because of the fact that ICE is there, but because specifically of what an ICE agent did in the middle of last week.

The shooting of a Minneapolis resident, Renee Good.

a shooting that killed Ms.

Good.

And at this point, millions of people have watched the video of that shooting from every conceivable angle on social media, on TV news.

But there was a lead up to that shooting that a lot of us didn't watch as closely and didn't see on TV or on YouTube.