Michael Barbaro

You know, Rene Good is entirely at fault and the ICE officer did nothing wrong here.

So can they be objective?

How are you making sense of what has become an incredibly messy and contentious situation over what I normally think of as everybody doing joint investigations of a tragic situation?

But will Minneapolis residents believe that it's a serious investigation?

I want to talk about what happens next now in the city.

as this investigation, for which there may not be much faith locally, unfolds?

Because in the wake of this shooting and these protests, your governor has dispatched the National Guard to Minneapolis.

The president is dispatching or plans to dispatch far more federal officials, border patrol agents.

Is that just going to magnify all the challenges that we have been talking about here?

If this escalates, are you worried, Chief O'Hara, that all of this is just going to erase the work you've done over the past four-plus years to rebuild and repair the community's trust in the Minneapolis Police Department?

I mean, is there any part of you that feels that this moment could strengthen the relationship between the community and police and test this work and reveal that you all have made progress?

That people will see a distinction between the MPD and the feds?

Just to end this conversation, Chief O'Hara, how do you think you get back?

to a simpler time in your policing where you can be focused on the reforms that you brought to the city on repairing relations between police and the community?

And in your mind, does ICE, does Border Patrol, do all these federal agents need to leave the city for you to do that?

By ICE.

Just to return to that question, can your work at its best coexist with the work of an organization like ICE?

Chief O'Rourke, thank you very much for your time.

We really appreciate it.

We'll be right back.