Michael Barbaro

You know, what they call race realism stuff.

And it scared the shit out of me.

Ross Douthat had some blog posts once where he's like, if you hated the religious right, you're really going to hate the irreligious right.

So the alternative to that is, you know, a universalistic religion where we're all, you know, equal.

We're all created in the image of God.

And so that's what I felt like I needed.

I think I remember reading...

And it was such a central part of like my persona that I was like ashamed to admit that I was doing this.

The utter lack of spiritual significance of this, it just felt icky to me.

Huh.

It took me like a week and a half.

I had to tell my wife.

I was like, guess what I did last Friday?

And so that was an awkward conversation.

Two years ago, I'd say, well, what we need to do is change structures, right?

And here he was, re-evaluating all of that.

You know what?

Like, this worked really well for a long period of time.

And we're in this moment after, say, this post-war era where you've had all these great innovations.

And I think we're starting to realize that it doesn't seem very durable anymore.