Michael Barbaro

It was the most indelible image in President Trump's mass deportation campaign because it felt the most unfamiliar and kind of brutal.

Right, which was met with a wall of resistance from the Trump administration who basically said, take our word for it that these are the worst of the worst.

Right.

And so it began to feel like a pretty endless black box.

Tell us about one of these men that you spoke to whose story is very consistent with what you heard from all 40.

Well, surely it wasn't just a taillight out.

And what does Luis describe as his journey to this prison in your conversations with him?

So, Julie, what are the conditions that Luis and the rest of these Venezuelans find in this prison?

They're supposed to drink their bathing water.

Correct.

It sounds like torture.

I mean, they are that despondent that they are writing messages of protest in their own blood.

That's how far gone the situation has become.

What happened after the shooting?

Did these men get any kind of medical treatment?

Julie, throughout this period, as all these horrific actions are allegedly occurring,

Are these men able to speak to anyone in the outside world through phone calls, emails, anything?

And as we know, Secretary Noem praises this operation.

So it would seem she did not hear these kinds of accounts from these men.

I want to ask you what might seem like a somewhat insensitive question given the really shocking descriptions from these men.