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Michael Barbaro

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The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Her partner in trying to repeal the endangerment finding was an attorney named Jonathan Brightbill.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

He had served in the Justice Department under the first Trump administration.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Everyone we have talked to has described him as a very sharp legal mind who really knows his way around the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

and has made the argument in court that Democratic administrations have really overreached in their efforts to impose regulations to address climate change.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

He was essentially dealing with the downstream effects of the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Because of the endangerment finding...

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

EPA has been dealing with a whiplash of regulations.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They have been created in Democratic administrations, erased in Republican administrations, and fought in courts the entire time.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

Withdrawing the endangerment finding eliminates this situation entirely.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And that's what Gunasekara and Brightbill plotted to do.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And how do they actually go about doing that?

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

So in the summer of 2022, Gunasekara and Brightbill start seeking funding for a big new project.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They want to create a secret operation to kill the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They pitched conservative organizations.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They asked for about $2 million for the ability to work on scientific studies and research from scientists who disagree with the mainstream science.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They would start laying out the legal case for repealing the endangerment finding.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

All of these things were things that could be used by a next Republican president, they hoped, Donald Trump, on day one.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

They did eventually receive funding from a conservative organization, the Heritage Foundation.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

The Heritage Foundation would go on to lead Project 2025, the blueprint for the next Republican president.

The Daily
The Secret Plan to End U.S. Climate Regulations

And Mandy Gunasekara wrote the EPA chapter for Project 2025.