Michael Barbaro

And there wasn't always going to be ever, of course, agreement about what to do about it.

Businesses weren't thrilled about some of the costs entailed in changing their conduct.

But a lot of people got on board with the idea.

that something needed to be done.

And yet, as you've explained here, a very persistent group of ideologically aligned climate change skeptics kept at it through Republican and Democratic presidencies and have succeeded in making their view, which isn't necessarily the nation's view, become the government's official policy.

And that's something to behold, right?

It really is.

And one of the things that became clear as we were reporting this story out is that this group of conservative lawyers, their views on climate change were not in the mainstream, even of their own party.

But they were persistent and they did an enormous amount of planning.

And that persistence paid off in the form of President Trump.

Who?

You know, we all know his views on climate change, calls it a hoax, calls it a scam.

And when President Trump was elected, these two forces joined and they were ready to get this anti-climate agenda done.

And later today, when the endangerment finding is repealed, it will be, in the words of one climate contrarian, total victory for their cause.

Well, Lisa, thank you very much.

Thanks so much.

We'll be right back.

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