Michael Barbaro

is small compared to that survival.

And the bosses at all these firms that end up capitulating to Trump say some version of, we are the same law firm after we did these deals as we were before.

In fact, in a company-wide email, your former boss says just that.

Quote, this agreement does not change who we are.

What do you make of that?

It does change who the firm is.

You very clearly have a lot of faith in the U.S., but at this point, how confident are you, given everything you've just been through, that the version of the United States that seems to be at the center of everything you've done here is now the version of the United States?

And you just publicly picked a little bit of a fight with the president.

I wonder if this experience made you question going into law.

Well, Thomas, thank you for coming in here and for telling us this story.

We really appreciate it.

Last time we spoke, it was just a few days after you quit your job at Skadden.

Right.

Suddenly, you're not employed.

You're not getting any paychecks.

What happened next?

And what ends up happening to your job prospects?

Do you end up finding a job?

And what can you tell me about that work, how you got it, and how it may or may not fit into the way that your last job ended?

I know when you clerk for a judge, this is my sense, you may not be able to discuss a lot of the intricacies of your work.