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Michael Batnick

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The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

But I completely agree with the premise of looking at these two areas of the market and concluding anything about the economy.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Pump the brakes.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Here's why.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Look at restaurants, for example.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

A lot of them are doing really poorly.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Oh, the consumer must be not able to afford a lot of these prices.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Yeah, partially true.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Obviously, part of it is an inflation story.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

You know what else is part of the story?

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Supply, valuation.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

The valuations of a lot of these quick service restaurants were so stupid.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

that they're now normalizing, comps are tougher, there's too many sweet greens and cavas and the Miami Pura Vida.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

The competition tells you nothing about the consumer.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Okay, that's number one.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Another area worth looking at or thinking about is the performance of the stock might tell you the opposite about the consumer and who knows in which case.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

So for example,

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Is dollar general with dollar general or dollar tree be ripping because the lower end consumer is in good shape and they're able to buy more stuff or would dollar general be doing poorly because people that are trading down can no longer like, where else are they going to go?

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

Or, or, or a third scenario.

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

no the consumer is doing poorly but the middle class is now trading down and therefore the stock is performing better like it's so messy and you can craft middle class people are going to dollar general therefore the economy's bad but it's both it helps dollar general stock yeah okay it's just it's very convoluted yeah so i think you have to you really have to look under the hood with this one i totally agree all right yes and for god and for god's sake

The Compound and Friends
SpaceX IPO With Rupert Mitchell, Consumer Discretionary Is Not an Econ Signal, Halo ETF Launches

That's evergreen.