Michael Button

I know a bit.

I haven't read his book, but I know a bit about it.

And it's interesting.

I mean, he's like a serious guy, isn't he?

He's an engineer.

Exactly.

And he has quite serious theories that...

Yeah, which would be crazy, wouldn't it?

The whole of like ancient Egypt and the Sahara Desert in general just doesn't make sense to me because when you look at the Sahara Desert and the fact that it was green for 9000 years and then it stopped being green at precisely the time that we're told ancient Egypt emerged.

That doesn't make sense.

That defies how civilization works.

Why would a civilization only emerge after the climate got worse?

Right.

That doesn't make sense at all.

Nothing, nothing.

The Sahara Desert is vast and obviously covered in sand and extremely hot, extremely difficult to survey, politically unstable.

And there's basically been no archaeological work done across the whole.

And the Sahara Desert is massive.

It's like the whole of North Africa, right down to... I mean, it's massive.

You could fit the United States in there.