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Michael Button

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I would say it's a massive monkey wrench because not only does it kind of really dispute this idea that we didn't settle down until, you know, 12,000 years ago with the Neolithic Revolution.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Because, I mean, it's a structure.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I mean, and it's just because it's so unlikely, it's so unbelievable that this would have survived.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

But that kind of suggests that it's not the only one.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

There could have been loads of these, like structures everywhere.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Yeah, and obviously people may be saying, well, look, clearly things survive.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

But this is an extreme edge case scenario where it's like so unbelievably unlikely that this wooden structure would kind of sink into a bog and then that bog be, you know...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

solidified over and then it would stay in that preserve like it's a and that they would find it and then they would they would find it exactly because you know 476,000 years in the sediment yeah exactly because we don't dig that far and look for anything sophisticated because we think you know nothing happened back then and then you find this and it really suggests that humans were living in much more complex societies and they were I mean they the fact that they had the cognitive capacity to

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

to plan, structurally engineer, and build a structure completely flies in the face of what we've always thought about ancient humans.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Because we've always had this idea that... There's been this very popular idea in mainstream historical thought that...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

humans only got smart around 50 to 60,000 years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

And that's just Homo sapiens.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

We've always thought that other human species never got smart, never achieved what we call behavioral modernity.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

And this has always been the kind of idea that we went through this cognitive revolution around 50 to 60,000 years ago.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

And the most obvious proponent of how entrenched this is in kind of academic thought is, have you ever read the book Sapiens?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Yeah, by Yuval Noah Harari.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

It's an extremely popular book.