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Michael Button

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The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Yeah, so this is the preservation problem, and this is something I talk about in my videos.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

So I kind of always ask the question, like, what if human culture had flourished in the Eemian, for example, which was from 130,000 to 115,000 years ago, what realistically would survive?

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

It's such a vast, vast length of time that it's really unlikely, at least as far as I can tell, and obviously I'm not a scientist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I'm not like a, you know, a materialist.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I'm not any kind of, I'm just a guy.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I'm not even a historian technically.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

But as far as I can tell, it's extremely hard for these, for any materials, but even our modern materials in our huge civilization that, you know, 8 billion people, industrial society, sending rockets to space, you know, all the crazy stuff that we're doing.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Even us, if we disappear tomorrow, I think it would be,

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

It's extremely unlikely that pretty much anything would survive when you get up to these huge timescales of like 100,000 years.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

And so I've been doing quite a lot of, you know, research into this because I don't... I obviously don't want to, you know, get things wrong and put falsehoods out there and mislead people.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I don't want to look like a dickhead in front of like millions of people or whatever.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

So I've been trying to like...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

you know, debunk myself or play devil's advocate to myself on this point because, you know, that's the best way to make your argument airtight and no one's really out there debunking me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I don't know if that's because I'm right or because, like, no one knows me.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Maybe that would change after a show like this, but...

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

I've been really looking into the kind of degradation of modern materials as much as I can and trying to work out how much would survive from a civilization like ours if we disappeared tomorrow in 100,000 years' time.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

Yeah, of like an actual modern city.

The Joe Rogan Experience
#2368 - Michael Button

And the scary truth is it's almost nothing.