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Michael Chad Hoeppner

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The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

I mean, if you want to go religious for a second, think of all the religious traditions in the world and how very often if there's a level of devotion that is trying to be unlocked, they actually do physical rituals, sometimes even regimens. And yes, these ways of acting, and if you want to use sort of philosophical language, acting virtuous can unlock positive feelings too.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah. The first thing I should say is I did not invent vocal variety. Humans use vocal variety. We've been using it as long as we're human. And there's some really important reasons why we use it, which we can get into. But let's cut to your question, which is these five P's. And those five P's are pace, pitch, pause, power, and placement. Probably the first four are instantly familiar.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah. The first thing I should say is I did not invent vocal variety. Humans use vocal variety. We've been using it as long as we're human. And there's some really important reasons why we use it, which we can get into. But let's cut to your question, which is these five P's. And those five P's are pace, pitch, pause, power, and placement. Probably the first four are instantly familiar.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Let's go through them quickly. Pace is speed. So that's fast and slow. Pitch is the note on a musical clef. High or low. So high or low. Pause is exactly what it sounds like. Silence. and maybe even varied lengths of silence. Power is just another word for volume, so that's loud and soft. And then placement is probably the only one that's not instantly familiar.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Let's go through them quickly. Pace is speed. So that's fast and slow. Pitch is the note on a musical clef. High or low. So high or low. Pause is exactly what it sounds like. Silence. and maybe even varied lengths of silence. Power is just another word for volume, so that's loud and soft. And then placement is probably the only one that's not instantly familiar.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Placement means where is the sound placed?

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Placement means where is the sound placed?

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

placed in your body a big misconception that people have about speaking is that it's a totally cognitive activity like if i think of smart words i will say smart words but it's actually a physical activity it takes a hundred muscles to do what you and i are doing right now it's a physical activity i mean even just the act of enunciation if you think for a moment even just saying the word enunciation

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

placed in your body a big misconception that people have about speaking is that it's a totally cognitive activity like if i think of smart words i will say smart words but it's actually a physical activity it takes a hundred muscles to do what you and i are doing right now it's a physical activity i mean even just the act of enunciation if you think for a moment even just saying the word enunciation

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

how deeply physical that is. That final P, a placement, just to be very clear because sometimes people get a little confused about this. That means where the sound is placed in your body. So the easiest example to think about is if you have a friend with a really nasal voice, What's happening technically is the sound is only amplifying in like the nasal passages in the nasal area of the face.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

how deeply physical that is. That final P, a placement, just to be very clear because sometimes people get a little confused about this. That means where the sound is placed in your body. So the easiest example to think about is if you have a friend with a really nasal voice, What's happening technically is the sound is only amplifying in like the nasal passages in the nasal area of the face.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

So that's if P placement. And we use these five Ps of vocal variety to do a whole bunch of really important purposes like... Convey meaning, convey emotion, create surprise, and more. But those are the five Ps.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

So that's if P placement. And we use these five Ps of vocal variety to do a whole bunch of really important purposes like... Convey meaning, convey emotion, create surprise, and more. But those are the five Ps.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah. Let's talk about kids for a second. So we are actually in the midst of a real crucible moment in which how our kids learn to speak is a little bit under threat because they spend so much time looking at these devices right here. And for those of you who are just listening, of course, I'm holding out my cell phone.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah. Let's talk about kids for a second. So we are actually in the midst of a real crucible moment in which how our kids learn to speak is a little bit under threat because they spend so much time looking at these devices right here. And for those of you who are just listening, of course, I'm holding out my cell phone.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

And because they're not actually kind of learning interpersonal behavior and the interpersonal dynamic in the same three-dimensional, 24-7 kind of way that previous generations did, it's fraught. It's in a little bit of danger right now. And I applaud you for taking your one and a half year old's development seriously because it matters. And we take these skills for granted. We should not.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

And because they're not actually kind of learning interpersonal behavior and the interpersonal dynamic in the same three-dimensional, 24-7 kind of way that previous generations did, it's fraught. It's in a little bit of danger right now. And I applaud you for taking your one and a half year old's development seriously because it matters. And we take these skills for granted. We should not.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah, for sure. So to answer the question, yes, I've worked with folks on most of the continents of the globe and all kinds of different walks of life. For many years when I lived in New York City, I taught at Columbia Business School in the PhD program. And a lot of the folks who get their PhDs at Columbia speak English as a second or third or fourth language. I coach in the startup world a lot.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

Yeah, for sure. So to answer the question, yes, I've worked with folks on most of the continents of the globe and all kinds of different walks of life. For many years when I lived in New York City, I taught at Columbia Business School in the PhD program. And a lot of the folks who get their PhDs at Columbia speak English as a second or third or fourth language. I coach in the startup world a lot.

The Action Catalyst
How To Talk Good and Stuff, with Michael Chad Hoeppner (Speaking, Communication, Sales, Training)

And a building companies in the US speak English as a second or third or fourth language and oftentimes hail from somewhere else. And there's two ways I would suggest we think about this. On the one hand, there are the core things that humans do, and we do them all over the world. And that's partly because we are communication instruments. Communication is not a sidecar to being human.