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you probably would have got a full house.

Even if the, you know, even after the final, whatever it is, it's kind of so cavernous, this lack of atmosphere in the Aviva, but it's that small.

Even if you've got 18,000, it just feels tiny, you know?

So, sorry, just to totally add that, because I do feel that's been working against you as a, if you're trying to sell a package, even though people are so disappointed after the Champions Cup, and that's a factor, I still think the Aviva hasn't helped either, you know?

Sorry to cut in.

I agree.

So I would feel the other way about that, Will.

I think, look, if you show up to the game and you play reasonably well, right, and the opposition just do better than you or comes down to a referee call or comes down to a kick or whatever it is, right, fine margins to me, I think they'd feel like they would hurt more.

But I think not showing up would hurt me more just as a...

just as a competitive person.

Do you know that kind of way?

That's my sense.

The first thing that when you were talking about that, the first thing I was like, no, I'd hate to not show up at all.

That would feel way worse.

That was embarrassing, I thought, at times.

Going in at halftime, it must have been like,

I knew, like, just get me off this pitch.

You know what I mean?

Like, this is beyond, like, and Ferris, look, they fought back for a certain amount, but, like, you know, Bordeaux would shut down the engines at that stage, you know?

You know, I think it'll be interesting to see what, I'd love to be a fly on the wall to hear about, you know, what the, you know, how they'll,