Michael Franzese

I wrote a book, Mafia Democracy. I have a copy for you right here. Oh, good. And you're going to read this book. Now, I want to tell you something. Mafia Democracy. Now, I wrote this a year and a half ago. It wasn't current, but I mean, not today. But, Bill, when you read that book, you're going to see that This is exactly how our government is operating, just like the mob. In some ways, yeah.

I mean, come on, that's a bit of an exaggeration. I can tell you many ways the government doesn't act just like the mob. But you're not without a point as far as, I mean, what is the mob basically based on? It's based on the old idea of the Roman Empire's protection racket. The Roman Empire was a protection racket. I mean, they would go... You know, would you like to live?

I mean, come on, that's a bit of an exaggeration. I can tell you many ways the government doesn't act just like the mob. But you're not without a point as far as, I mean, what is the mob basically based on? It's based on the old idea of the Roman Empire's protection racket. The Roman Empire was a protection racket. I mean, they would go... You know, would you like to live?

I mean, come on, that's a bit of an exaggeration. I can tell you many ways the government doesn't act just like the mob. But you're not without a point as far as, I mean, what is the mob basically based on? It's based on the old idea of the Roman Empire's protection racket. The Roman Empire was a protection racket. I mean, they would go... You know, would you like to live?

Oh, it's going to cost you. Would you like to keep your grocery store from burning down? It's going to cost you. That's the protection racket. There is some of that in government. I mean, what would you tell me? You wrote the book. What are some examples of that? To me, it's just all about power and control, Bill. Oh, that's vague. You're going to have to do better.

Oh, it's going to cost you. Would you like to keep your grocery store from burning down? It's going to cost you. That's the protection racket. There is some of that in government. I mean, what would you tell me? You wrote the book. What are some examples of that? To me, it's just all about power and control, Bill. Oh, that's vague. You're going to have to do better.

Oh, it's going to cost you. Would you like to keep your grocery store from burning down? It's going to cost you. That's the protection racket. There is some of that in government. I mean, what would you tell me? You wrote the book. What are some examples of that? To me, it's just all about power and control, Bill. Oh, that's vague. You're going to have to do better.

Well, power and control, meaning that these people get into office. They get intoxicated with the power. They never want to leave. as evidenced by most of our Congress people. And they enriched themselves. Yeah, but give me a specific example of how the government acts like the mafia. Well, there again, I mean, it's all about, what are we all about?

Well, power and control, meaning that these people get into office. They get intoxicated with the power. They never want to leave. as evidenced by most of our Congress people. And they enriched themselves. Yeah, but give me a specific example of how the government acts like the mafia. Well, there again, I mean, it's all about, what are we all about?

Well, power and control, meaning that these people get into office. They get intoxicated with the power. They never want to leave. as evidenced by most of our Congress people. And they enriched themselves. Yeah, but give me a specific example of how the government acts like the mafia. Well, there again, I mean, it's all about, what are we all about?

We wanted to make money, and we wanted to stay in control of people. And the government operates the same way, in my opinion. Give me an example. I mean, listen, I don't throw one blanket over everybody in government. There are honest people there. I'm not saying that. But I think the mechanism has now become really all about power and control.

We wanted to make money, and we wanted to stay in control of people. And the government operates the same way, in my opinion. Give me an example. I mean, listen, I don't throw one blanket over everybody in government. There are honest people there. I'm not saying that. But I think the mechanism has now become really all about power and control.

We wanted to make money, and we wanted to stay in control of people. And the government operates the same way, in my opinion. Give me an example. I mean, listen, I don't throw one blanket over everybody in government. There are honest people there. I'm not saying that. But I think the mechanism has now become really all about power and control.

But truly there must be like examples if you wrote a whole book. It was like, you know what? At the Department of Labor, they did this. No, I'm not going to – I won't be specific like that. But listen – And I can only go with you so far. Okay. You got to be specific. Let me ask you this. You're making an accusation like that. All right, let me ask you this.

But truly there must be like examples if you wrote a whole book. It was like, you know what? At the Department of Labor, they did this. No, I'm not going to – I won't be specific like that. But listen – And I can only go with you so far. Okay. You got to be specific. Let me ask you this. You're making an accusation like that. All right, let me ask you this.

But truly there must be like examples if you wrote a whole book. It was like, you know what? At the Department of Labor, they did this. No, I'm not going to – I won't be specific like that. But listen – And I can only go with you so far. Okay. You got to be specific. Let me ask you this. You're making an accusation like that. All right, let me ask you this.

Politicians, many of them come into the money. They come into power. They're middle-class people. They don't have a lot of money. And they go out millionaires, multimillionaires, many of them. How do you explain that? Oh, no, there is graft. I mean, that characterizes, well, finally we have a guy in office who that does characterize. Who's that? Donald Trump. You may have heard of him.

Politicians, many of them come into the money. They come into power. They're middle-class people. They don't have a lot of money. And they go out millionaires, multimillionaires, many of them. How do you explain that? Oh, no, there is graft. I mean, that characterizes, well, finally we have a guy in office who that does characterize. Who's that? Donald Trump. You may have heard of him.

Politicians, many of them come into the money. They come into power. They're middle-class people. They don't have a lot of money. And they go out millionaires, multimillionaires, many of them. How do you explain that? Oh, no, there is graft. I mean, that characterizes, well, finally we have a guy in office who that does characterize. Who's that? Donald Trump. You may have heard of him.

He won the election again. Yeah, but he had money before he came into office. He didn't come into government to make money. Yeah. Are you fucking kidding me? No, he didn't. First of all, in his first term, we thought, oh, this is as bad as it can get with the graft because he did things that no president ever done, like kept all his assets. People were staying.