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Michael Gapen

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125 total appearances

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Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

So right now, I might be able to get as much oil as I need at a higher price.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

What happens if it's not available at any price?

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

Then you could start to see things through the lens of supply chain disruptions like we had during COVID.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

Where that's going to show up first is in Asia, because I think, as you know, about 85% of the oil that comes out of the Strait of Hormuz, its destination is Asia.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

So if some economies are going to experience outright shortages first, it will be there.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

uh and and then you're talking about i can't get the oil or as you say the fertilizer uh or the distillate that that i need therefore activity has to to stop so those are the risks we could get second round effects on inflation because we've been above target for for so long or this this conflict could go on long enough where it actually it changes from price effects to quantity effects then

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

You're right, we could see a much more persistent inflation story.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

You laid it out very well.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

I would argue that markets are reacting a little less

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

to the headlines now than they were two to three to four weeks ago.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

As you said in your introduction, oil was up around eight, nine, 10 percent today in response to the implementation of the blockade, but US equity markets did okay today.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

I do think the market is discounting a little bit the headline noise, looking through some of the day-to-day volatility in a way that it did not do it a few weeks ago.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

So I agree with you that it can be very disconcerting to hear headlines one way one day and the other way the next day.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

But I think the market's actually starting to filter that out better and volatility has come down.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

I think a second factor behind that is markets had to de-risk for the first two to three to four weeks of this.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

Most investors were positioned for rates to fall

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

at least at the front end of yield curves, all throughout most of the world, not all the world, but much of the world.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

And what this oil price shock did, of course, was push yields higher.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

So markets needed to rebalance and de-risk and get out of positions and kind of get flat or neutral, as we would call it.

Prof G Markets
The Oil Blockade Isn’t Spooking Markets — Yet

That process leads to a lot of initial volatility.