Michael Jones

I gave a big list of Muslims to debate in the UK to some podcasts over there for when I go.

And I heard from them, and they're like, we're having a hard time getting any of them to agree.

Do you think they're profitable, debates?

Oh, absolutely.

Yeah?

The reason why debates are profitable

is because you get to talk to an audience you're not normally gonna get to talk to.

When I debated an atheist in 2017, there was people who watched that debate that were atheists and they're Christian now.

And that was their first introduction to my own ministry and my work.

and so yeah absolutely that's why i keep doing them because you get to talk to people that are going to watch for the other person and some of them you want to shake you want to get them to realize okay maybe that guy actually has something and i should consider it and so well especially if you have the impression that your religion is the dominant advancing aggressive

Oh yeah, absolutely, yeah.

There's a reason we hold to what we call Judeo-Christian values.

We don't call them Judeo-Christian Islamic.

Why don't we do that if it's the other Abrahamic religion out there?

Because their values are completely different to us.

Whereas we, having a good casual conversation might work better here in the West.

To them, it's about projecting confidence, order, authority, power, and you show that, and that's gonna be more appealing to people coming from that background, that way of thinking.

That's why you see them constantly thumping their chest for their audience.

That's kind of their mentality.

So you have to come in and sort of show, you can't come in and be like, hey, let's just have a nice little conversation.