Michael Jones

But to Christianity?

No, to Judaism, yeah.

But then even like, you know, in like atheists like Gerd Ludemann will say, this creed was formulated within two years of the crucifixion.

So very early on, they believe Jesus physically rose.

Then you have to deal with the fact that the tomb was discovered by women, okay, three days later.

Okay, in the ancient world, they would never make up a story like that because no one believed the testimony of women.

They were very sexist, unlike today, you know, in comparison.

I mean, people think we're sexist.

Go back to the ancient world, it's a thousand times, you know.

But so you have this story in all four Gospels that women discovered this empty tomb three days later.

You would never make up a story like that.

What's what we see in later apocryphal gospels, like the gospel of Peter.

It's like everyone's there to see it.

So you have that kind of stuff.

Then you have, again, you have skeptics converting.

Like if you were like, well, they hallucinated Jesus because they were grieving him.

Paul wasn't.

What was going on with him?

You know, so start to, here's the thing.

When you bring all this data up to skeptics,