Michael Jones

You're right.

The churches don't, but some of like the, you know, the ortho bros or the trolls online will say that.

And I go, here's how I convince the trolls.

I get most Christians agree, but I'm talking about just the trolls here.

Does baptism save?

Does the Orthodox or the Catholic Church re-baptize Protestants?

The Orthodox sometimes do.

We don't.

Yeah, the Catholics do not.

I believe the official teaching on the Orthodox Church is, no, they don't need to be re-baptized.

Sometimes they do just out of like- I think it depends on which Orthodox we're talking about.

So I mean, if baptism saves, and I think it does, okay, then Protestants are saved.

So we're all one family.

The problem is like Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, Unitarians, they're not baptizing properly.

They're not believing core doctrines properly.

I agree.

I've landed there.

I think that seems what the church fathers taught.

And at the end of the day, I'm going to go with the church fathers unless I'm thoroughly convinced.

Yeah.