Michael Jones

And that is a very engaging quality.

And I'll give you one example.

So when he's leading this big expedition, his first independent command, and the Welshmen are coming in, the Cheshiremen, the mercenaries are joining from all over Europe.

And the prince likes his bling.

You know, he likes to show off strutted stuff.

And some of the soldiers are saying, who's this fop?

They're sort of wondering about it.

And the prince gets to hear about this, and he draws his entire army up.

And then the great ceremony ignites his personal tailor.

And so he can take the piss out of himself, and the army love it.

He totally turns it around by doing that.

And this is where he is very winning.

He understands chivalry, but at the same time, this mischievous humour really is an icebreaker and forges some very powerful loyalties.

So he's a real personality.

Well, the biggest blot on his escutcheon, if I can use that phrase, as we're going to get on to later on, the sack of Limoges in 1370.

And I argue very strongly in my book, my biography of the Black Prince, that that really didn't happen.

And if that particular episode is reviewed, it back projects onto the whole of his career, which I think comes across in a much more favourable light.

Well, there's another big campaign in 1359-60, and that is very much in Edward's mind.

He's thinking about that because they do head to Reims.

What happens is a compromise where, by the Peace Treaty of Bretigny in 1360...