Michael Knowles

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Before we get to Cabot, Matt.

I'm saying on foreign policy in particular, I think he's earned a lot of trust.

Are we in a better place right now than we were five weeks ago?

Can I bring a little Thucydides in here?

Just a little, to go back to the OG historian of war, in the Peloponnesian War, Thucydides writes that nations go to war for three reasons, fear, interest, and honor.

And the late great historian of ancient Greece, Don Kagan, who was a right-winger also, one of the few in academia, he said, everyone takes seriously the fear part.

Everyone takes seriously the interest part.

No one takes seriously the honor part because we live in this materialist society.

And so when you say, Matt, well, hold on, why is it?

Give me the one reason why we went to war.

you know, or Cabot, you just mentioned that the rationale keeps changing.

I don't think it's changing so much as there were multiple reasons to go to war.

There is the fear that Iran could get a nuclear weapon.

Iran has been pretty open about pursuing a nuclear weapon for decades now, and it might be overhyped how close they are to actually achieving a nuclear weapon.

I agree with that, but they clearly want it.

And so that causes rational fear, certainly for the United States, but for the rest of the world.

In terms of interest, there's a lot of interest when we're talking about

specifically the Strait of Hormuz, where 20% of the oil for the global market flows through.