Michael Lee
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39 appearances
4 recordings
4 series
first heard Nov 2024
last heard Feb 2025
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Toy Boat.
Verstehst du mich?
It's gonna be at least a pile.
That one's scary.
Oh Mann.
My name is Michael Lee. I'm a major crimes detective in south, southeast Texas. I started the National Crimes Against Children's Investigators Association along with very successful child abuse prosecutors and investigators. And my job is to be an objective fact finder, to recognize patterns, to go get evidence, to compile all that in a format in an organized fashion.
Yeah, when we talk about the elevation from, you know, like the NG tube to the G tube to the GJ tube to the TPN machine, right, and that whole track, that is a very context-specific type of behavior that we do see, right, in a pattern.
What we're really looking for is inconsistencies with what should be or inconsistencies between behavior A and behavior B, statement A, statement B. That's really the job of the investigators whenever they're working through this case. The G-tube cases are the ones that track hardest towards death.
They're the ones that in the medical literature, you know, that when they talk about just how deadly this type of abuse is, the fact that it is arguably the most deadly of all types of abuse regarding children, that those are the cases that lead to it.
The fact that she is telling the child things, that she is presenting these things from multiple angles is very indicative of this psychological drive towards what we believe to be likely a child that will die or will be very close to death.
It is not uncommon for these offenders to induce things, especially under times of high stress, and especially if they're being questioned about it, especially if the child's making improvements. If there's a separation and then they go back with the mother, all of a sudden we got to go even harder, you know, on whatever medical emergency is fixing to arise now.
Right. So it's like a counteraction. So I think that all of the signs and symptoms are here for that. It's obviously a concern that she's pushing this child towards death. what are you going to get more attention for, right?
Since we know that this is primarily fueled by the seeking of attention and validation and support, and that's how they feel love and so forth and so on whenever they achieve those things. So they're filling a deficit, right? But whenever they engage in this behavior, what's going to get you more attention?
A child with asthma, a child with a broken limb, or a child with cancer that's terminal, right? What's going to get you even more attention than that when the child dies? I mean, how much of an outpouring of sympathy, empathy and everything else are you going to get? Just an outpouring of love and support from people, right?
And I think one of the scary things about this is one of the hallmark features, too, from a pathological perspective is that the children of these mothers typically never, there's never a maternal bonding process that takes place between these kids and their parents.
So, I mean, it even tracks even harder, I think, in this one, given the fact that this is a child that she adopted from a foreign country, brought her here, And there's a lot of things just surrounding that whole process that really seemed very suspicious to me in and of themselves.
But in addition to everything else that we're seeing, these are not, you know, for this person, for this not to be a criminal behavior, an intentionally afflicted abuse, there would be way too many coincidences, right, of all of these things happening. And I think that's where we really have to, like Mike Weber told me one time, and I laughed
Yeah.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. And especially because if she's caught a lot of scrutiny over whether this child has this condition or not, and the idea of making room for one or two more that have a legitimate diagnosis that is life-threatening in some way, right? Like, yeah, I mean, it tracks. Why not get rid of this one and get a lot of love and support from that?
And then as our love tank is emptying, we bring those other ones in and we start this process all over again. And it's a pattern of behavior. And it's like, listen, it wasn't even enough. Like, we've got to get two more. We've got to triple the amount that I'm – and we can say all day long, oh, it's because I have a heart for kids, this and that and the other thing.
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