Michael Levin

You don't have to fix the DNA.

You don't have to kill the cells with chemo.

You can just reconnect them and they go back to, because they're now part of this larger collective, they go back to what they were working on.

And so, yeah, I think we can intervene at that scale.

I mean, guaranteed, we've already seen in our own bodies, and I don't just mean that we are host to a bunch of microbiome or any of that.

I mean that your cells, and we have all kinds of work on this, every day they traverse these alien spaces, 20,000 dimensional spaces and other spaces.

They solve problems.

I think they suffer when they fail to meet their goals.

They have stress reduction when they meet their goals.

These things are inside of us.

They are all around us.

I think that we have an incredible degree of mind blindness to all of the very alien kinds of minds around us.

And I think that looking for aliens off the earth is awesome and whatever, but if we can't recognize the ones that are inside our own bodies,

What chance do we have to really, you know, to really recognize the ones that are out there?

Yeah, yes and no.

The yes part is that what, as we have shown, you can take existing IQ metrics, I mean, literally existing kinds of ways that people used to measure intelligence of animals and humans or whatever, and you can apply them to very weird things.

If you have the imagination to make the interface, you can do it.

And we've done it and we've shown creative problem solving and all this kind of stuff.

So yes.

However, we have to be humble about these things and recognize that all of those IQ metrics that we've come up with so far were derived from an N of one example of the evolutionary lineage here on Earth.