Michael Levin
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Right.
That's really, you know, a lot of people have definitions of robots as far as what they're made of or how they got here, you know, design versus evolve, whatever.
I don't think any of that is useful.
I think I think as an engineer, what you want to know is how much can I depend on this thing to do when I'm not around to micromanage it?
What level of?
what level of dependency can I give this thing?
How much agency does it have?
Which then tells you what techniques do you use?
So do you use micromanagement?
Like you put everything where it goes?
Do you train it?
Do you give it signals?
Do you try to convince it to do things, right?
How much, you know, how intelligent is your substrate?
And so now we're moving into this area where you're working with agential materials.
That's a collaboration.
That's not old style.
Agential, yeah.
Agency.
It comes from the word agency.