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Michael Levin

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And I wanted to use it as a model system for honing our abilities to take a new system and looking at it with fresh eyes.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And that's because the sorting algorithms have been studied for over 60 years.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

We all think we know what they do and what their properties are.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

The algorithm itself is just a few lines of code.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

You know, you can see exactly what's there.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

It's deterministic.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And so that's why, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

I wanted the most shock value out of a system like that if we were to find anything and to use it as an example of taking something minimal and seeing what can be gotten out of it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So I'll describe two interesting things about it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And then we have lots of other work coming in the next year about even simpler systems.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

I mean, it's great.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

actually crazy.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So the very first thing is this, the standard sorting.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So let's take bubble sort, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And all these sorting algorithms, you know, what you're starting out with is an array of jumbled up digits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Okay, so integers, it's an array of mixed up integers.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And what the algorithm does

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

is designed to do is to eventually arrange them all into order.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And what it does generally is compare some pieces of that array and based on which one is larger than which, it swaps them around.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And you can imagine that if you just keep doing that and you just keep comparing and swapping, then eventually you can get all the digits in the same order.