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Michael Levin

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Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Machines don't do that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Even this minimal thing has a minimal kind of intrinsic motivation, which is something that

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

is not forbidden by the algorithm, but isn't prescribed by the algorithm either.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

And I think that's an important third thing besides chance and necessity.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Something else that's fun about this is when you think about intrinsic motivations, think about a child.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

If you make him sit in math class all day, you're never going to know what the other intrinsic motivations are that he might be doing, right?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Who knows what else he might be interested in.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So I wanted to ask this question.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

If we let off the pressure on the sorting, what would happen?

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

Now, that's hard because if you mess with the algorithm, now it's no longer the same algorithm.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So you don't want to do that.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So we did something that I think was kind of clever.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

We allowed repeat digits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So if you allow repeat digits in your array...

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

You can still have all the fives can still be after all the fours and after all the sixes, but you can keep them as clustered as you want.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

So this thing at the end where they have to get declustered in order for the sorting to happen, we thought maybe we could let off the pressure a little bit.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

If you do that, all you do is allow some extra repeat digits.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

The clustering gets bigger.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

It will cluster as much as you let it.

Lex Fridman Podcast
#486 โ€“ Michael Levin: Hidden Reality of Alien Intelligence & Biological Life

The clustering is what it wants to do.