Michael Levin

We have to, if you're going to convince that system, you know, so, so when we make a gut tissue into an eye, you have to convince those cells that their priors about we are, we are gut precursors.

Those priors are wrong and you should adopt this new worldview that you're going to be, you know, you're going to be an eye.

So being convincing and figuring out what kind of messages are convincing to cells and how to speak the language and how to make them take on new beliefs, literally, is at the root of all of these future advances in birth defects and regenerative medicine and cancer.

And that's what's going on here.

So I'm not saying it's simple, but I can see the path.

Yeah.

Couple of things.

So we, so we are now beyond anything that I can say with any certainty, this is total, total conjecture.

Okay.

So, because we don't know yet the whole point of this is we actually don't really understand very well the relationship between the interface and the thing.

Correct, correct.

And we are beginning to map it, but you know, this is a massive effort.

So a couple of conjectures here.

One is that I strongly suspect that...

The majority of what we think of as the mind is the pattern in that space.

And one of the interesting predictions from that model, which is not a prediction of modern neuroscience, is that there should be cases where there is very minimal brain and yet normal IQ function.

This has been seen clinically.

Karina Kaufman and I reviewed this in a paper recently, a bunch of cases of humans where there's very little brain tissue and they have normal or sometimes above normal intelligence.

Now, things are not simple because that obviously doesn't happen all the time, right?

Most of the time that doesn't happen.