Michael Lewis

And I mentioned it.

And then I was like, I mentioned maybe torts.

And people have been saying that.

And the guy said, we need torts back in this league.

So I kind of found that interesting.

You guys never played for him, but that cracked me up.

And I should have mentioned also, this is off of Buffalo when we were talking Pittsburgh.

Biz, I know you're into investment.

You're big into real estate.

How's the ROI, which is return on investment, for spending $900 million on the Penguins five years ago and selling them for $1.8 billion?

Smart move to sell it now, too, because, I mean, realistically, if you get five more years of Sid, like, you saw how it was after Mario when Mario was going to leave.

Like, it kind of went down a little bit.

So, it's a great move by selling it and getting that ROI.

Yeah, it's crazy.

Yeah.

David Hoffman, the Hoffman family.

So yeah, I...

I wonder, then all of a sudden, though, you look at everyone's contract there, like Dubas, it's not the owner that hired you, right?

That's a little bit similar to Kekelein and saying everyone's under the microscope.

New owner can bring in whoever the hell he wants, but I think you talk to Penguins fans right now, they're pretty happy with Dubas.