Michael Lewis

I do...

write physical notes in hard copy books.

If I'm not doing that, I feel like it's not gonna work.

Do you think you would have not published the book if it hadn't?

Yeah, but scenes don't make a play.

Garages were a little more popular back in the day with HP or Apple or in the 90s with Google and Amazon, all founded in garages.

Today, though, it's more likely an SF apartment or a coffee shop or a hacker house.

But, you know, the key question remains, what do you do after you find product market fit and when you start scaling?

As we've been saying all season, this is even more important in the AI era.

AI products need deep access to sensitive data to be impactful.

So these security features are just a price of admission for enterprises.

Yeah, it's funny.

We were talking with WorkOS founder Michael Greenwich about this, and he was making an impassioned pitch to us that Google should have won the entire web-based productivity market given they were first and they had better technology.

So if you're ready to get started with just a few lines of code for SAML, SCIM, RBAC, SSO, authorization, authentication, and everything else to please IT admins and their checklists, check out WorkOS.

It's the modern software platform to make all this happen.

That's WorkOS.com.

And just tell them that Ben and David sent you.

We did an episode on him and with him a few years ago.

I built a studio in my backyard.

Steven is as maniacal about...