Michael Malice

And then people posted pictures.

But if you went, if you were at this meeting, like I think there was maybe like 15 people there.

He did.

Michael's one of them.

I mean, he's in Masada.

But if you were to say something like,

If you were to say something like, look, America has its own interests, but Israel's alliance with us is important because we need a stable foothold in the region.

For that reason, there is going to be an overlap in our agendas, which I think is mostly true.

I think an average person might be like, well, that's reasonable.

But if you say we have a brotherly love relationship, so we have to defend you for this ideological reason, you sound nuts.

and Israel have this relationship.

One of which absolutely is Israel exerting influence through resources, money to try and get politicians on their side.

But evangelicals in this country want the same thing the Messianic Jews want with the Fourth Temple.

I think evangelicals are more Zionist than Jews as a population.

Probably.

Yeah.

We went over this some time ago.

We've been talking about the red heifer and all of these things.

There are American- There are American Christians- I haven't heard about the red heifer since I was in Yeshiva, like when I was six.

It's been in the news nonstop.