Michael Moynihan

And it's just like, it's the reckless thing, which I said previously on our podcast, is that doing that in that situation in such a kind of hinge moment when your language skills are questionable and not a hundred percent. I mean, anyone who speaks a foreign language understands that when you're not like a fluent speaker, you're going to miss a lot of tone and intonation.

And I think that that was a huge problem. I mean, I think if Zelensky grew up in Queens but happened to be the leader of Ukraine, much like the leader of Estonia grew up in New Jersey in the past, then it would have been a completely different exchange. I mean, judging those tones and everything, it became quite difficult. You should not have done it.

And I think that that was a huge problem. I mean, I think if Zelensky grew up in Queens but happened to be the leader of Ukraine, much like the leader of Estonia grew up in New Jersey in the past, then it would have been a completely different exchange. I mean, judging those tones and everything, it became quite difficult. You should not have done it.

And I think that that was a huge problem. I mean, I think if Zelensky grew up in Queens but happened to be the leader of Ukraine, much like the leader of Estonia grew up in New Jersey in the past, then it would have been a completely different exchange. I mean, judging those tones and everything, it became quite difficult. You should not have done it.

Well, I don't think it's offensive. I think that what Zelensky is... And again, I think that probably Rachel Maddow and I have pretty substantive differences on this. No, I know. I'm on the Ukrainian side on this, and I think that Putin and the gang in the Kremlin are horrible, monstrous dictatorship, and it's what it is. They are actually a dictatorship. But I will say this, that...

Well, I don't think it's offensive. I think that what Zelensky is... And again, I think that probably Rachel Maddow and I have pretty substantive differences on this. No, I know. I'm on the Ukrainian side on this, and I think that Putin and the gang in the Kremlin are horrible, monstrous dictatorship, and it's what it is. They are actually a dictatorship. But I will say this, that...

Well, I don't think it's offensive. I think that what Zelensky is... And again, I think that probably Rachel Maddow and I have pretty substantive differences on this. No, I know. I'm on the Ukrainian side on this, and I think that Putin and the gang in the Kremlin are horrible, monstrous dictatorship, and it's what it is. They are actually a dictatorship. But I will say this, that...

When it comes to what Zelensky was asking for, and he kept on interceding and saying this, and it's a frustrating thing for Ukrainians, is not getting a security guarantee because they've had security guarantees in the past. I mean, they made a security guarantee by giving up their nuclear weapons after the Cold War that we give up our weapons and we have the protection that we need.

When it comes to what Zelensky was asking for, and he kept on interceding and saying this, and it's a frustrating thing for Ukrainians, is not getting a security guarantee because they've had security guarantees in the past. I mean, they made a security guarantee by giving up their nuclear weapons after the Cold War that we give up our weapons and we have the protection that we need.

When it comes to what Zelensky was asking for, and he kept on interceding and saying this, and it's a frustrating thing for Ukrainians, is not getting a security guarantee because they've had security guarantees in the past. I mean, they made a security guarantee by giving up their nuclear weapons after the Cold War that we give up our weapons and we have the protection that we need.

And none of that has come to bear. I mean, you see that he mentioned- But let me ask, okay, but let's have a backup.

And none of that has come to bear. I mean, you see that he mentioned- But let me ask, okay, but let's have a backup.

And none of that has come to bear. I mean, you see that he mentioned- But let me ask, okay, but let's have a backup.

No, nobody does. No.

No, nobody does. No.

No, nobody does. No.

No, I don't want American soldiers over there either. I don't think that's the only way of doing it. I mean, Donald Trump, of course, is saying that there is a way of doing that, that it would deter people in the Kremlin if we had Americans working on the ground there, which I just don't believe because we had Americans working in Kiev when they were trying to surround it in 2022.

No, I don't want American soldiers over there either. I don't think that's the only way of doing it. I mean, Donald Trump, of course, is saying that there is a way of doing that, that it would deter people in the Kremlin if we had Americans working on the ground there, which I just don't believe because we had Americans working in Kiev when they were trying to surround it in 2022.

No, I don't want American soldiers over there either. I don't think that's the only way of doing it. I mean, Donald Trump, of course, is saying that there is a way of doing that, that it would deter people in the Kremlin if we had Americans working on the ground there, which I just don't believe because we had Americans working in Kiev when they were trying to surround it in 2022.

Well, there's no conversation about a number of things. There's no conversation about the status of various Ukrainian cities that are under Russian occupation. There's no conversation about the tens of thousands of children that have been stolen from Ukrainians. I mean, this is not a controversial thing. People understand that this happened. I mean, those are two huge things.