Michael Moynihan

Talk to me a little bit about what it is like in that environment. You were there the first year in the first administration and you read your book and you're like, good Lord, this is a nest of vipers. Everyone's trying to backstab and push people out, et cetera.

Talk to me a little bit about what it is like in that environment. You were there the first year in the first administration and you read your book and you're like, good Lord, this is a nest of vipers. Everyone's trying to backstab and push people out, et cetera.

Talk to me a little bit about what it is like in that environment. You were there the first year in the first administration and you read your book and you're like, good Lord, this is a nest of vipers. Everyone's trying to backstab and push people out, et cetera.

How would you describe just that year in a sort of broad sense of going from the military into the White House and being in a position where there's a lot of newbies there and people don't really know what they're doing. What was that like?

How would you describe just that year in a sort of broad sense of going from the military into the White House and being in a position where there's a lot of newbies there and people don't really know what they're doing. What was that like?

How would you describe just that year in a sort of broad sense of going from the military into the White House and being in a position where there's a lot of newbies there and people don't really know what they're doing. What was that like?

I mean, that's important because, you know, we talked about this beforehand and it's very clear in the book too, is that you see your job as somebody who has to go in there and implement the president's agenda. But it's clear in the book that you see people around you who have an agenda that they're trying to foist upon the president.

I mean, that's important because, you know, we talked about this beforehand and it's very clear in the book too, is that you see your job as somebody who has to go in there and implement the president's agenda. But it's clear in the book that you see people around you who have an agenda that they're trying to foist upon the president.

I mean, that's important because, you know, we talked about this beforehand and it's very clear in the book too, is that you see your job as somebody who has to go in there and implement the president's agenda. But it's clear in the book that you see people around you who have an agenda that they're trying to foist upon the president.

And they're saying, we need to contain this person because he's dangerous. I mean, there's a couple of people in the book that say, refer to Donald Trump as dangerous.

And they're saying, we need to contain this person because he's dangerous. I mean, there's a couple of people in the book that say, refer to Donald Trump as dangerous.

And they're saying, we need to contain this person because he's dangerous. I mean, there's a couple of people in the book that say, refer to Donald Trump as dangerous.

I mean, there's about 15 things I want to talk about there, but let's stay in the present for just a second and look at those picks. The reaction from a lot of people was, these are serious picks. I mean, you have the ones that are less serious, right? And probably concerning to you, people like Pete Hegseth, and it's not to say that he hasn't

I mean, there's about 15 things I want to talk about there, but let's stay in the present for just a second and look at those picks. The reaction from a lot of people was, these are serious picks. I mean, you have the ones that are less serious, right? And probably concerning to you, people like Pete Hegseth, and it's not to say that he hasn't

I mean, there's about 15 things I want to talk about there, but let's stay in the present for just a second and look at those picks. The reaction from a lot of people was, these are serious picks. I mean, you have the ones that are less serious, right? And probably concerning to you, people like Pete Hegseth, and it's not to say that he hasn't

been an impressive individual in his service in the military, but not a traditional pick, I would say. So when you look at these, I mean, do you see, you know, is there a balance that Donald Trump tries to create with kind of chaos agents and then you?

been an impressive individual in his service in the military, but not a traditional pick, I would say. So when you look at these, I mean, do you see, you know, is there a balance that Donald Trump tries to create with kind of chaos agents and then you?

been an impressive individual in his service in the military, but not a traditional pick, I would say. So when you look at these, I mean, do you see, you know, is there a balance that Donald Trump tries to create with kind of chaos agents and then you?

Like serious people who are like, I'm sure that when you were walking in Philadelphia that day, you opened your last two books with walking in Philadelphia and getting that call. And I'm sure it was slightly unexpected when you first heard that you were in consideration. But what is the logic here?

Like serious people who are like, I'm sure that when you were walking in Philadelphia that day, you opened your last two books with walking in Philadelphia and getting that call. And I'm sure it was slightly unexpected when you first heard that you were in consideration. But what is the logic here?