Michael Phillips

As for the audience reaction, I don't recall that there was anything dramatic.

I interviewed him before the execution.

And we came up with an idea.

Unfortunately, it was mine, that if he felt pain while he was dying, that he should shake his head.

So I decided.

And I say it's unfortunate because as things were, I was unable to determine if he was giving me that signal.

He seemed to die peacefully.

I had to put down a dog a couple of years ago or have the dog put down.

And I was with him while that happened.

And I couldn't, how do you say?

After seeing those two things, I said, I wish I could die that way.

And there was no evidence with my dog, for example, that there was any pain.

It was like I put him to sleep.

And I think that's what they did with Charlie, but it would take a doctor to know.

I do think that some states know what they're doing more than others.

And so...

And I went to the scripture in John chapter eight, where Jesus encounters the adulterous woman.

And one of the lighter moments when we were in there was when I read that you are without sin cast the first stone.

I can tell you that it's horrible as a lethal injection is.

And yes, it is a con job.