Michael Phillips

So yeah, it's not confusing at all. And yeah, I mean, I think the root of it, at least in like a modern philosophical sense, is Nietzsche, or at least that's a common reference point. And when Nietzsche is talking about nihilism, especially in a book like The Genealogy of Morality and a lot of other places,

He is making the argument that sort of Christian European culture, and particularly Christian European culture influenced by idealist philosophy, creates nihilism. The reason he says it creates nihilism is because people care more about heaven than they do about earth. They care more about... the life they're going to have in eternity than the life they have in the here and now.

He is making the argument that sort of Christian European culture, and particularly Christian European culture influenced by idealist philosophy, creates nihilism. The reason he says it creates nihilism is because people care more about heaven than they do about earth. They care more about... the life they're going to have in eternity than the life they have in the here and now.

He is making the argument that sort of Christian European culture, and particularly Christian European culture influenced by idealist philosophy, creates nihilism. The reason he says it creates nihilism is because people care more about heaven than they do about earth. They care more about... the life they're going to have in eternity than the life they have in the here and now.

So for him, it's like this devaluement of life that happens via Christianity. More broadly speaking, nihilism has a, I guess, more positive usage, which is the, you know, disbelief in the inherent or necessary meaning in an overarching system.

So for him, it's like this devaluement of life that happens via Christianity. More broadly speaking, nihilism has a, I guess, more positive usage, which is the, you know, disbelief in the inherent or necessary meaning in an overarching system.

So for him, it's like this devaluement of life that happens via Christianity. More broadly speaking, nihilism has a, I guess, more positive usage, which is the, you know, disbelief in the inherent or necessary meaning in an overarching system.

Yeah, so you kind of have this distinction and some people use of positive and negative nihilism. And to be really crass and simple here, negative nihilism is nothing means anything. So I don't give a shit. I'm just going to hang out and do whatever. Positive nihilism is there's no inherent meaning in reality. But cool.

Yeah, so you kind of have this distinction and some people use of positive and negative nihilism. And to be really crass and simple here, negative nihilism is nothing means anything. So I don't give a shit. I'm just going to hang out and do whatever. Positive nihilism is there's no inherent meaning in reality. But cool.

Yeah, so you kind of have this distinction and some people use of positive and negative nihilism. And to be really crass and simple here, negative nihilism is nothing means anything. So I don't give a shit. I'm just going to hang out and do whatever. Positive nihilism is there's no inherent meaning in reality. But cool.

Now me and the homies can construct meaning as we see fit, which is more like the existentialist response. We're going to create meaning where maybe there wasn't natural meaning in this like old school platonic or Christian sense.

Now me and the homies can construct meaning as we see fit, which is more like the existentialist response. We're going to create meaning where maybe there wasn't natural meaning in this like old school platonic or Christian sense.

Now me and the homies can construct meaning as we see fit, which is more like the existentialist response. We're going to create meaning where maybe there wasn't natural meaning in this like old school platonic or Christian sense.

Yeah, I mean, I think there's the sense in which it is the kind of weird Jordan Peterson-y, alt-right philosophy version of nihilism, which just means, like, people that think the dominance of the West is bad. And it also reeks a little bit of, like, Big Lebowski nihilism for... Totally, totally. And, of course, in that movie, nihilism is represented by...

Yeah, I mean, I think there's the sense in which it is the kind of weird Jordan Peterson-y, alt-right philosophy version of nihilism, which just means, like, people that think the dominance of the West is bad. And it also reeks a little bit of, like, Big Lebowski nihilism for... Totally, totally. And, of course, in that movie, nihilism is represented by...

Yeah, I mean, I think there's the sense in which it is the kind of weird Jordan Peterson-y, alt-right philosophy version of nihilism, which just means, like, people that think the dominance of the West is bad. And it also reeks a little bit of, like, Big Lebowski nihilism for... Totally, totally. And, of course, in that movie, nihilism is represented by...

crew of i think austrian techno producers called autobahn who are also nihilist and they say throughout the film like we are nihilist we believe in nothing which is a really and obviously coen brothers made that film at least one of them was a philosophy major so they know what they're doing that's kind of the really basic not good enough version of this thing that it seems like the fbi is operating with like people who don't believe in the goodness of the western project

crew of i think austrian techno producers called autobahn who are also nihilist and they say throughout the film like we are nihilist we believe in nothing which is a really and obviously coen brothers made that film at least one of them was a philosophy major so they know what they're doing that's kind of the really basic not good enough version of this thing that it seems like the fbi is operating with like people who don't believe in the goodness of the western project

crew of i think austrian techno producers called autobahn who are also nihilist and they say throughout the film like we are nihilist we believe in nothing which is a really and obviously coen brothers made that film at least one of them was a philosophy major so they know what they're doing that's kind of the really basic not good enough version of this thing that it seems like the fbi is operating with like people who don't believe in the goodness of the western project

can I say something that stood out to me about those definitions? The hatred thing I found really interesting in like the very first definition you give that nihilism is defined as like in a motive state. Because again, I think nihilism is classically conceived totally is almost more like ontological or metaphysical. And by that, I just mean looking at these structures of belief in the world.