Michael Pollan

And the Defense Production Act, you should understand, was something passed in the 50s, giving the president the power to force a company to do things in the public interest that they don't want to do. Like, say, a car company should start making tanks because we're in wartime or planes.

And basically, this was a perversion of the act because it was allowing the company to do exactly what it wanted to do. but using the federal power to do it. So all of this told us that the food system had reached a point of crisis in terms of concentration, and that was a reason to reopen the story and take another look at the food system.

And basically, this was a perversion of the act because it was allowing the company to do exactly what it wanted to do. but using the federal power to do it. So all of this told us that the food system had reached a point of crisis in terms of concentration, and that was a reason to reopen the story and take another look at the food system.

And basically, this was a perversion of the act because it was allowing the company to do exactly what it wanted to do. but using the federal power to do it. So all of this told us that the food system had reached a point of crisis in terms of concentration, and that was a reason to reopen the story and take another look at the food system.

Yeah, or meat. There are four companies slaughter all the beef. Look at infant formula. Remember that crisis? There are only two companies that sell all the infant formula. And when one of them had a contamination problem on their production lines, Mothers couldn't get formula. So if you had 20 companies or 10 companies, a screw up at one of them would not have affected everybody. But.

Yeah, or meat. There are four companies slaughter all the beef. Look at infant formula. Remember that crisis? There are only two companies that sell all the infant formula. And when one of them had a contamination problem on their production lines, Mothers couldn't get formula. So if you had 20 companies or 10 companies, a screw up at one of them would not have affected everybody. But.

Yeah, or meat. There are four companies slaughter all the beef. Look at infant formula. Remember that crisis? There are only two companies that sell all the infant formula. And when one of them had a contamination problem on their production lines, Mothers couldn't get formula. So if you had 20 companies or 10 companies, a screw up at one of them would not have affected everybody. But.

So it's the old adage, we're putting all our eggs in one basket and that's never a good idea.

So it's the old adage, we're putting all our eggs in one basket and that's never a good idea.

So it's the old adage, we're putting all our eggs in one basket and that's never a good idea.

Yeah, it's one of the saddest things. You see these creative startups doing healthy food or doing innovation, and they get gobbled up right away. And invariably, when they get gobbled up, they add to the amount of sugar in the products, which always increases sales, and add salt, and kind of destroy the golden egg that they've just bought.

Yeah, it's one of the saddest things. You see these creative startups doing healthy food or doing innovation, and they get gobbled up right away. And invariably, when they get gobbled up, they add to the amount of sugar in the products, which always increases sales, and add salt, and kind of destroy the golden egg that they've just bought.

Yeah, it's one of the saddest things. You see these creative startups doing healthy food or doing innovation, and they get gobbled up right away. And invariably, when they get gobbled up, they add to the amount of sugar in the products, which always increases sales, and add salt, and kind of destroy the golden egg that they've just bought.

I did too. I love TV dinners.

I did too. I love TV dinners.

I did too. I love TV dinners.

Yeah, well, that's the other big story that we focus on in fooding too, because that's the other big change since 2008. The term ultra-processed food was not in use then. We talked about junk food a lot, or processed food. But a lot of research has been done since then to really pinpoint the fact that the degree of processing of food matters greatly to our health. And

Yeah, well, that's the other big story that we focus on in fooding too, because that's the other big change since 2008. The term ultra-processed food was not in use then. We talked about junk food a lot, or processed food. But a lot of research has been done since then to really pinpoint the fact that the degree of processing of food matters greatly to our health. And

Yeah, well, that's the other big story that we focus on in fooding too, because that's the other big change since 2008. The term ultra-processed food was not in use then. We talked about junk food a lot, or processed food. But a lot of research has been done since then to really pinpoint the fact that the degree of processing of food matters greatly to our health. And

Ultra-processed food, the term was coined by Carlos Monteiro, who was an epidemiologist in Brazil, in Sao Paulo. And he's a very interesting character who's in the movie. And he was trying to understand, you know, 10 or 15 years ago, why was it that Brazilians were putting on so much weight and having rising rates of diabetes and