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Michael Pollan

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Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

We would lose control of them completely by giving them rights.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

But I find this whole tender care for the possible consciousness of chatbots really odd because we have not extended moral consideration to billions of people

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Not to mention the animals that we eat that we know are conscious.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

So we're going to start worrying about the computers.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

That seems like our priorities are screwed up.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Well, yeah.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Think about Frankenstein, right?

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I mean, Frankenstein's monster didn't just have human intelligence, which would have been one thing.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

It also had consciousness.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And it was the consciousness which got injured by the way he was treated by humans that turned him into a homicidal maniac.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

So people in Silicon Valley say, yeah, a conscious AI is going to be more responsible because it'll have empathy.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I don't think we should assume that.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

I think Frankenstein is a good cautionary tale that giving consciousness to your creation, why should it have any more conscience than lots of humans do?

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

So I think they're kidding themselves about that.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

Yeah, this was really interesting.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

So I heard about this guy named Russell Hurlburt, who's a psychologist at the University of Las Vegas.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And for the last 50 years, he's been doing an experiment to sample people's what he calls their inner experience.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And the idea is you wear a beeper.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And it goes off at random times during the day.

Fresh Air
Best Of: The life and legacy of Fela Kuti / Michael Pollan on consciousness

And he gives you a little pad and you write down exactly what you were thinking at that moment.