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Michael Regilio

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2745 total appearances

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The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Actually, to be honest with you, it gets a little bit clearer than that because let's talk about what we actually discovered in those two big cases I just talked about against Meta and Alphabet, which is the parent company of YouTube and Google.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Yes, that's absolutely right.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

So Section 230 was written in 1996.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

And just for comparison, Netscape was the biggest game in tech at that time.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Which illustrates the problem with tech.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

It moves faster than the legal system.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Because no one in 1996 could have ever imagined TikTok.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

But you're right.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

The apps basically can't get sued for what third parties do with them, which is why these two cases, one in LA and the other one was in New Mexico, were such a big deal.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

In these cases, the litigants proved it was not third parties, but the apps themselves doing harm by design.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Yeah, well, you certainly did your homework on this one, but...

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

You're correct that the defense of the tech companies were basically like, look, mental health is complex.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

You can't blame it all on us.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

But the thing is that in both cases, the plaintiffs argue that tech companies intentionally designed their apps to take advantage of young people's developing prefrontal cortex, basically exploiting their lack of impulse control.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Mark Zuckerberg himself took the stand and tried to argue that apps, that his apps don't allow users on until they're 13 years old.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

But thanks to the good old fashioned discovery period.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

Right, exactly.

The Jordan Harbinger Show
1332: Screen Time | Skeptical Sunday

And the plaintiffs uncovered one document that said, quote, if we want to win big with teens, we must bring them in as tweens.