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Michael Rubin

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784 total appearances

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Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

I don't think that's realistic for the 22,000 people that I work with. I think that would be illogical, not real, like living in a fairy tale. What I would say to you is if you want to be a fanatic's you have to have a will to win. Okay? And if you just like, if you just want to come in, you know, hit the clock, be nine to five, this ain't for you. Okay?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

I don't think that's realistic for the 22,000 people that I work with. I think that would be illogical, not real, like living in a fairy tale. What I would say to you is if you want to be a fanatic's you have to have a will to win. Okay? And if you just like, if you just want to come in, you know, hit the clock, be nine to five, this ain't for you. Okay?

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

That said, people have lives, people have families. Like, you know, I'm not a big work balance life person. That's not who I am. You and I have talked about that before. I'm like, people are like, how's your work life balance? Like, I don't have any. Because it's all work. Because I love it.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

That said, people have lives, people have families. Like, you know, I'm not a big work balance life person. That's not who I am. You and I have talked about that before. I'm like, people are like, how's your work life balance? Like, I don't have any. Because it's all work. Because I love it.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

It's too much. I would tell you, if you look at my direct team, the people I work with day in and day out, the six or seven people that kind of run the business with me, they have that intensity.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

It's too much. I would tell you, if you look at my direct team, the people I work with day in and day out, the six or seven people that kind of run the business with me, they have that intensity.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

They've got to be glued in like I am, have that intensity, love it, be here for the action. No one that I'm with is in it for the money. Like they all want to see the report cards. They want to see they're doing well, but they're in it to win in a big way and to make it better for the fan.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

They've got to be glued in like I am, have that intensity, love it, be here for the action. No one that I'm with is in it for the money. Like they all want to see the report cards. They want to see they're doing well, but they're in it to win in a big way and to make it better for the fan.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And so we're so obsessed with like, if you just saw the emails every day, it's everything that we could do better at. It's everything we could build to be better. It's like, we're always just trying to do better. And so that takes a relentless effort. you know, kind of focus. If I didn't have it for my key, you know, team, then how would that go down the organization? It never would.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And so we're so obsessed with like, if you just saw the emails every day, it's everything that we could do better at. It's everything we could build to be better. It's like, we're always just trying to do better. And so that takes a relentless effort. you know, kind of focus. If I didn't have it for my key, you know, team, then how would that go down the organization? It never would.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

The person that works, you know, in a warehouse or, you know, a lid store is going to have the same intensity of a top executive at the company. No, but by the way, some of our next leaders work in the warehouse. Some of the, you know, maybe the future CEO fanatics, when I'm dead one day, is in a lid store today. They're in a warehouse today. You don't know. Roger Goodell started in the mailroom.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

The person that works, you know, in a warehouse or, you know, a lid store is going to have the same intensity of a top executive at the company. No, but by the way, some of our next leaders work in the warehouse. Some of the, you know, maybe the future CEO fanatics, when I'm dead one day, is in a lid store today. They're in a warehouse today. You don't know. Roger Goodell started in the mailroom.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

He's been the commissioner of the NFL for whatever, since, you know, the last, That's 15, 20 years. So like to me, like I love that story of like you can will anything to happen, but I'm realistic as well.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

He's been the commissioner of the NFL for whatever, since, you know, the last, That's 15, 20 years. So like to me, like I love that story of like you can will anything to happen, but I'm realistic as well.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And if I didn't, we'd be killed because there's so many, we were in three different businesses with lots of competitors, all figuring out how they can beat us. And so we have to be better. No, and I understand that. We have to keep doing things for the fans that are better. And we're not unrelenting about that. We're done.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

And if I didn't, we'd be killed because there's so many, we were in three different businesses with lots of competitors, all figuring out how they can beat us. And so we have to be better. No, and I understand that. We have to keep doing things for the fans that are better. And we're not unrelenting about that. We're done.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

No. That's a pretty simple answer. I mean, like, look, it's easy. And so before anyone's going to shit all over my answer, let me just preempt it, okay? Obviously, I've had more than a financial success where I'm never thinking about money, okay? That said-

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

No. That's a pretty simple answer. I mean, like, look, it's easy. And so before anyone's going to shit all over my answer, let me just preempt it, okay? Obviously, I've had more than a financial success where I'm never thinking about money, okay? That said-

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

You don't care? I don't act any different today than I did in 2009 when I didn't have enough money to pay the mortgage on my house. I know that that's the truth. I am the same exact person and that's what makes me me. And so I think if you look at the people that are the most important people in our company, they're driven by the mission. They're driven by making it better for the fan.

Aspire with Emma Grede
The Founder Playbook: How Michael Rubin Built Fanatics by Betting on Obsession

You don't care? I don't act any different today than I did in 2009 when I didn't have enough money to pay the mortgage on my house. I know that that's the truth. I am the same exact person and that's what makes me me. And so I think if you look at the people that are the most important people in our company, they're driven by the mission. They're driven by making it better for the fan.