Michael Rubin

They're driven by trying to do the unthinkable. They're driven by like just winning at the highest level. And then generally the report card is money does follow, but that's not what they're driven by. For me personally, I don't care about it at all. Now, again, I know people are going to say, well, it's because you've been so financially successful.

They're driven by trying to do the unthinkable. They're driven by like just winning at the highest level. And then generally the report card is money does follow, but that's not what they're driven by. For me personally, I don't care about it at all. Now, again, I know people are going to say, well, it's because you've been so financially successful.

So do I think as an entrepreneur, you should be in it for the money? No, I think you should be in it to build, to disrupt something, to build something great, to do something awesome. And by the way, to have so much fun, do you really, like, let me ask you a question. How much fun do you have doing what you do?

So do I think as an entrepreneur, you should be in it for the money? No, I think you should be in it to build, to disrupt something, to build something great, to do something awesome. And by the way, to have so much fun, do you really, like, let me ask you a question. How much fun do you have doing what you do?

For me, I was born an entrepreneur. I came out of the womb with those instincts. And by the way, it's kind of weird because like my family, there's no signs of business anywhere else in my family.

For me, I was born an entrepreneur. I came out of the womb with those instincts. And by the way, it's kind of weird because like my family, there's no signs of business anywhere else in my family.

Yeah. I got to do a DNA check, I think, or something. But, you know, like I... like even as a kid, you know, what I always loved was to be able to play the sport of business. That's what I've always loved. And today, what drives me more than anything is trying to do things better than we do it today or better than our competition. And to try to keep, you know, just like, I want to build

Yeah. I got to do a DNA check, I think, or something. But, you know, like I... like even as a kid, you know, what I always loved was to be able to play the sport of business. That's what I've always loved. And today, what drives me more than anything is trying to do things better than we do it today or better than our competition. And to try to keep, you know, just like, I want to build

the most important brand in sports. I want to build one of the most important consumer companies in the world. We're not remotely there today. Like I was just telling someone this story. I think I was telling your husband this. Like I watched the Nike movie. I think it was called Air.

the most important brand in sports. I want to build one of the most important consumer companies in the world. We're not remotely there today. Like I was just telling someone this story. I think I was telling your husband this. Like I watched the Nike movie. I think it was called Air.

And I watched it like when it first came out two years ago. And I remember going to Google Phil Knight. How old was he? He was 85. I'm like, I was 50 at the time. I Googled him two years ago. And I thought to myself, wow, I have 35 more years to do kind of what he's done. Like, what can I do over the next 35 years? So I really do think of ourselves in the startup phase today.

And I watched it like when it first came out two years ago. And I remember going to Google Phil Knight. How old was he? He was 85. I'm like, I was 50 at the time. I Googled him two years ago. And I thought to myself, wow, I have 35 more years to do kind of what he's done. Like, what can I do over the next 35 years? So I really do think of ourselves in the startup phase today.

I think we have so much opportunity to build each of the three businesses we're in to make them so great for consumers and to build something global that every sports fan needs. And then by the way, we'll think about what other businesses do we want to be in over time? Not today, but over time, once we get better at all the things we're doing. So to me, that learning is so fun.

I think we have so much opportunity to build each of the three businesses we're in to make them so great for consumers and to build something global that every sports fan needs. And then by the way, we'll think about what other businesses do we want to be in over time? Not today, but over time, once we get better at all the things we're doing. So to me, that learning is so fun.

So when I think about, you know, kind of what's in it from kind of, you know, a job or a career perspective, I think the learning is what turns me on. Yes. That is the thing that gets me most excited. I think if you as an entrepreneur go to build a business, if you just go to build something great, great shit follows. And by the way, sometimes it won't work. Sometimes you're going to fail.

So when I think about, you know, kind of what's in it from kind of, you know, a job or a career perspective, I think the learning is what turns me on. Yes. That is the thing that gets me most excited. I think if you as an entrepreneur go to build a business, if you just go to build something great, great shit follows. And by the way, sometimes it won't work. Sometimes you're going to fail.

And then you learn from that. Like I could go back and chart some of my biggest failures and say, man, I learned so much from that. And that helped me. for my next success. And so like each of my big failures, like, I don't know, they could have been disastrous, but they, they, they leaned into something next. I did. It was great.

And then you learn from that. Like I could go back and chart some of my biggest failures and say, man, I learned so much from that. And that helped me. for my next success. And so like each of my big failures, like, I don't know, they could have been disastrous, but they, they, they leaned into something next. I did. It was great.

Yeah. So first, I think it was in you. It just never came out before. I only wish I met you when you were 24, 25. I would have had you on the FNAX team and we'd be that much better. Now I have to partner with you to build off season to be on the same team. We got there eventually. Thank God. It took you until you were 26, 27.

Yeah. So first, I think it was in you. It just never came out before. I only wish I met you when you were 24, 25. I would have had you on the FNAX team and we'd be that much better. Now I have to partner with you to build off season to be on the same team. We got there eventually. Thank God. It took you until you were 26, 27.