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Michael Saylor

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
1883 total appearances

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Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

No.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

That's not what they want.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So they don't want duration.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

They don't want delta.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

They don't want volatility.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

They just want the income.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So stretch is interesting because, yeah, you know, there's a saying Winston Churchill, he said, you know, the Americans will do the right thing after they tried everything else.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Okay.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Stretch is the thing we did after we did like 19 other deals.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Yeah.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

We did an asset-backed loan with Silvergate where we barred against our Bitcoin.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

We did a senior loan where we had an EBITDA covenant.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Then we did a bunch of convertible bonds.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Then we did all the long duration perpetual preferreds.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

And we kept working it until we finally found the sweet spot of the market.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

But let me tell you the interesting thing about Stretch.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

Stretch is the simplest, simplest instrument we've ever created.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

from the point of view of the investor, but it's the most ambitious piece of financial engineering from the point of view of the issuer.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

So it's like we created the car with the automatic transmission or maybe even better.

Bankless
"Fix the Money, Fix the World" โ€” Michael Saylor's Master Plan (plus questions on Quantum and Ethereum)

What do people want?