Michael Saylor
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I talked to a lot of people in confidence about this, but maybe more to the point, I'm very public. I mean, the presentation at Bitcoin Nashville that I had had like a million views. And the presentations I've uploaded, the keynote I put up, last week is like half a million views online. So everybody in the industry knows what I think.
That's a difference because there is that. And then there is the conversation where, you know, if there's a relationship for somebody to be in someone's ear, for example, you know, Musk is in there, they're doing things together. Right. So what is that organization that they build is called Doge, right? Department of governmental efficiency, if I'm not mistaken, something like that. Right.
That's a difference because there is that. And then there is the conversation where, you know, if there's a relationship for somebody to be in someone's ear, for example, you know, Musk is in there, they're doing things together. Right. So what is that organization that they build is called Doge, right? Department of governmental efficiency, if I'm not mistaken, something like that. Right.
So how did that come about? Well, it's probably because Musk is in Trump's ear, and Trump is always looking for smart people around him that are giving ideas. I'm asking the question because I'm wondering if somebody like you is in his ear.
So how did that come about? Well, it's probably because Musk is in Trump's ear, and Trump is always looking for smart people around him that are giving ideas. I'm asking the question because I'm wondering if somebody like you is in his ear.
Well, he's got a lot of smart people around him, and I'm talking to all those people.
Well, he's got a lot of smart people around him, and I'm talking to all those people.
OK, so in other words, the answer is directly or indirectly, yes, is kind of what it looks like.
OK, so in other words, the answer is directly or indirectly, yes, is kind of what it looks like.
I would say that.
I would say that.
OK, I like that. I'll take that. I mean, you know, whatever the audience, however the audience wants to process it, they can. In regards to when you see companies like BlackRock, them getting into it, yourself, you getting into it. When BlackRock got into it, it was a market shift. It was almost like a level of validation where the market's like, wait a minute, who got into it? A critic?
OK, I like that. I'll take that. I mean, you know, whatever the audience, however the audience wants to process it, they can. In regards to when you see companies like BlackRock, them getting into it, yourself, you getting into it. When BlackRock got into it, it was a market shift. It was almost like a level of validation where the market's like, wait a minute, who got into it? A critic?
Somebody that wasn't for it? They're flipping? They're not buying? Yeah, we were wrong about it and we're doing this, right? How many of these stories that are public, again, I'm not talking private stories, how many of these stories are public, Michael, that people who were fully against it are now coming around and saying, no, we have to add this to our portfolio, right?
Somebody that wasn't for it? They're flipping? They're not buying? Yeah, we were wrong about it and we're doing this, right? How many of these stories that are public, again, I'm not talking private stories, how many of these stories are public, Michael, that people who were fully against it are now coming around and saying, no, we have to add this to our portfolio, right?
I mean, I think Larry Fink of BlackRock is by far the most compelling spokesperson for the Bitcoin movement. And he kind of epitomizes the intellectual journey, which is a successful financier first hears about it and hears about all the negative things. And good financiers, they go through the checklist of what are the 100 risk factors, right?
I mean, I think Larry Fink of BlackRock is by far the most compelling spokesperson for the Bitcoin movement. And he kind of epitomizes the intellectual journey, which is a successful financier first hears about it and hears about all the negative things. And good financiers, they go through the checklist of what are the 100 risk factors, right?
Because if you're really good at finance, you can tick off all 100 risk factors. So you do the check, you think about it, and you think, well, you know, kind of scary. I'm going to hold off on it for a bit. And you're skeptical. I was skeptical in 2013. He was skeptical.
Because if you're really good at finance, you can tick off all 100 risk factors. So you do the check, you think about it, and you think, well, you know, kind of scary. I'm going to hold off on it for a bit. And you're skeptical. I was skeptical in 2013. He was skeptical.
But at some point, if you're around it enough, if there's a need, if you have a need to know, maybe you get pushed and you realize, I need to open my mind and I need to embrace a new idea, find a new idea for growth. Maybe it's defensive. Maybe it's a growth initiative.