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Michael Scherer

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409 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I think there's an enormous concern in the Republican Party right now and inside the White House about the way things are going.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

And I think we do have the beginnings of a recalibration.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I don't think it'll be a recalibration that changes much, and I don't think it's one that most Americans will probably notice.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

But, I mean, to go back to the Preti shooting...

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

That policy of having roving bands of Customs and Border Patrol agents militarized go into American cities and break windows of cars and, you know, crash into protesters and shoot people was one that was directly driven by Stephen Miller.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

And when a guy got shot in a way that anyone who watched that video was horrified by or should be horrified by, Miller was put in the penalty box.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I mean, that's what happened a couple weeks ago, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

It means Tom Homan, who had sort of been on the outs inside the White House when it came to immigration policy, had been warring with Kristi Noem.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

Tom Homan was put in charge.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

Homan is not someone who is going to stop arresting and deporting people, but he is a much more by-the-book person.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

Let's arrest people at jails.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

Let's arrest people with cooperation with local officials.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

Let's de-escalate the situation type guy.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

And Miller, if you look at what he was saying in those days immediately after Homan goes to Minneapolis, he was looking for cover.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I mean, he puts out a statement earlier that week where he says something like, well, it looks like CBP didn't follow their own policies.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

And we're looking into that.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I mean, he was trying to distance himself from this thing that he had pushed for.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

I think dance is sort of a hybrid thing.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

As all vice presidents are, he's one step removed from the structure, like the core structures.

The Ezra Klein Show
Inside Trump’s ‘Royal Court’

He doesn't have any direct brief.