Michael Shawn Crahan (Clown)

They had lanyards.

Jim's hair was down to his butt.

How much of a scene was there?

Rick, we could, I mean, I can't even tell you.

You know, it's so big.

You wouldn't believe it.

Yeah, you wouldn't, we're all older now and we look back.

Everybody was in a different band.

So Paul Gray and our original singer were in a band.

My band was going to go first.

I played, then Paul runs up to me, cause I'm sort of punk and you know, it's kind of sub pop meets Steve Albini, you know, Pixies, whatever.

That's who we are, real, you know, we're a little crazy.

Paul comes up and he's like, bro, I, and I realized he's from California.

So he, we feel a little California to him.

So we hit it right off.

And that's how it started, me and him and the original singer.

Then I met Joey, cause he opened up for him.

The next time I got asked back, we opened up, then Joey's band was second.

And I remember going out to Joey, he got done with his set and he went outside to get some air.

And I just jumped up on the stage and walked outside.