Michael Shawn Crahan (Clown)

He could write.

And Joey and Paul were always like, no, this is starting.

So we got the drums.

Paul's like, I'm going to have to do the bass to communicate and write the riffs with Joey.

And we're going to need guitar players.

So we got a guitar player that was in Joey's band.

His name was Josh Brainerd.

Josh Brainerd is actually on our first album.

He quit after we came home.

We went back to Indigo Ranch with Ross Robinson for another three months to redo one song, Spit It Out, and that's when Jim came, and we redid Spit It Out at the same tempo.

But the version we did in Des Moines ourselves just smokes all of it.

So they had to keep it, you know, and no one was really happy about it because you got this album made up at Indigo Ranch, but then you have this song that got assigned that we recorded ourselves that you can't recreate.

So if you go to the first album, self-titled, the version that is on the self-titled, Spit It Out, is our original record recorded in Des Moines, Iowa.

So Sid was added to it and Ross and Joey did a mix.

So it's, you know, a different version as far as quality.

But just to give you a little information, the reason why it happened was Ross, when we pre-prod and recorded, we did a faster version and a slower version.

but he didn't do one the same tempo because he thought you have this.

Then we went away and the label's like, no to the fast one, no to the slow one.

We should really try to get one the same.

They spent all the money to try to get it and you just couldn't create.