Michael Shawn Crahan (Clown)

Or I'd bring him out in a wheelchair and then I'd dump him.

I'd be like, you know?

So we adorn our missiles, our detonations or whatever.

I'd have to say one thing I want to say about stories, you know, one thing I've learned as I've gotten older, you know, everybody kind of wants to change the narrative a little bit.

And I have to do my best to say out loud, I've lived this experience, but I can only recall it the way I remember.

And

You know, how the industry and the world just tries to push you to say I and me and I did this and it's me.

So I just try to do my best to keep everybody involved in it.

Less I and me and more shared.

Because that's the way I feel it all is anyway.

Of course.

It doesn't matter if I dropped a FedEx off, it was for the band.

Paul.

You know, Rick, I try not to remember.

Yeah.

It's been over 10 years now.

I reunited with his daughter, October.

She was in her mom's belly when he passed and I wanted to wait until she was a little bit older.

So I've taken her to the Grammys and she's 13.

So it's been a minute.