Michael Shellenberger

and this is out of Toynbee and this is how civilizations fail, the creative class or the elites in a civilization start to identify with the elites in a different civilization and also sympathize and want to bring in the working people of another nation. Well, that's exactly what we saw happen in these Western countries where the allegiances between with other elites

and this is out of Toynbee and this is how civilizations fail, the creative class or the elites in a civilization start to identify with the elites in a different civilization and also sympathize and want to bring in the working people of another nation. Well, that's exactly what we saw happen in these Western countries where the allegiances between with other elites

and this is out of Toynbee and this is how civilizations fail, the creative class or the elites in a civilization start to identify with the elites in a different civilization and also sympathize and want to bring in the working people of another nation. Well, that's exactly what we saw happen in these Western countries where the allegiances between with other elites

you know, mediated by organizations like the World Economic Forum or the United Nations or any one of these elitist organizations.

you know, mediated by organizations like the World Economic Forum or the United Nations or any one of these elitist organizations.

you know, mediated by organizations like the World Economic Forum or the United Nations or any one of these elitist organizations.

And so you've seen this beautiful populist nationalist backlash to it that says, no, we have thousands of years or hundreds of years of a national tradition that's special, that hands us a set of virtues and values that have sustained us and our families and our societies. And no, it wasn't all oppressive. It wasn't all colonialist or patriarchal or like it was a beautiful- Power predicated.

And so you've seen this beautiful populist nationalist backlash to it that says, no, we have thousands of years or hundreds of years of a national tradition that's special, that hands us a set of virtues and values that have sustained us and our families and our societies. And no, it wasn't all oppressive. It wasn't all colonialist or patriarchal or like it was a beautiful- Power predicated.

And so you've seen this beautiful populist nationalist backlash to it that says, no, we have thousands of years or hundreds of years of a national tradition that's special, that hands us a set of virtues and values that have sustained us and our families and our societies. And no, it wasn't all oppressive. It wasn't all colonialist or patriarchal or like it was a beautiful- Power predicated.

Yeah, it wasn't all just based on might makes right. It was also based on a very strong sense of principles created by gentlemen in a civilized way.

Yeah, it wasn't all just based on might makes right. It was also based on a very strong sense of principles created by gentlemen in a civilized way.

Yeah, it wasn't all just based on might makes right. It was also based on a very strong sense of principles created by gentlemen in a civilized way.

Incredible, incredible history of progress.

Incredible, incredible history of progress.

Incredible, incredible history of progress.

Yeah, it's the pride of the gentleman that they've earned. Andrew Tate's not a gentleman.

Yeah, it's the pride of the gentleman that they've earned. Andrew Tate's not a gentleman.

Yeah, it's the pride of the gentleman that they've earned. Andrew Tate's not a gentleman.

Yeah, I mean, I think to your point of we've— We now know that the greatest pleasures come from delaying gratification and that hedonism is actually a poor strategy to gain pleasure, that happiness is something that comes as a side effect in pursuing happiness. Pursuing your bliss, in the words of the great Joseph Campbell, or at least life's purpose, living a meaningful life.

Yeah, I mean, I think to your point of we've— We now know that the greatest pleasures come from delaying gratification and that hedonism is actually a poor strategy to gain pleasure, that happiness is something that comes as a side effect in pursuing happiness. Pursuing your bliss, in the words of the great Joseph Campbell, or at least life's purpose, living a meaningful life.