Michael Shellenberger
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So those are good directions, but for me, that should be the only issue of Section 230 reform is to actually expand the speech that's allowed, not restrict it.
What they wanna do is they wanna basically give
the deep state, for lack of a better word, DHS, NSF, DOD, the power to kind of choose the people that will decide what the truth is as these NGOs who would then get NSF money, which is public money, National Science Foundation money, and that they would then get special access to the data.
I mean, this was their whole vision and they were close to achieving it.
We only really discovered it with the Twitter files.
that's their holy grail to be able to control it that way it's they're they're set back in the united states but they are moving for sure in that direction in europe uh britain uh brazil and certainly california would like to do the same i hope that if gavin does sign that atrocious legislation that you were describing tucker i hope that the supreme court or that the courts strike it down they struck down the last california censorship initiative which was aiming at uh banning uh ai
you know parodies and that got struck down by a judge in a very eloquent uh decision but that's kind of where we're at and why i think you're
special on this is so important because we're on a knife's edge on the one hand i think we're making some good progress here in the united states in exposing the censorship um and shutting and defunding it but i think worldwide the trends are in the wrong direction and on college campuses with young people unfortunately we've seen an increase of support among censorship really every generation from baby boomers to gen xers to millennials to zoomers
that we see support for censorship going up.
And it's exactly like what you were saying.
It's about protecting feelings.
It's this, you know, to use a bit of jargon, it's this expressive individualism, which is that my feelings are like the most important thing in the world.
And if my feelings are hurt, then somebody has to pay a price.
sadly is the ideology.
And that's why I think the censorship is in this broader context.
cultural decline, where it's like the intolerance and the entitlement that people feel are these big forces that have been, I think, driving those demands for censorship.
Yeah, I think that's right.
I think it's a manipulation.
You know, it just shows how emotional the culture has gotten, you know, that you can appeal to those feelings.
I mean, Tucker, it's so easy to show how much of an abuse of power you can get with these hate speech laws.
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