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Michael Shellenberger

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

there let me make one distinction here because there's actually two kinds of reservoirs there's the reservoir with the snow melt water these really big lakes basically um and then there's the and that's that's the um unpurified water and then those and then they purify it and then they feed into these reservoirs where they store the water for for all sorts of reasons for emergencies so that is an absolute crime that that santa ines reservoir

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Why? Because first of all, it's right next to the Pacific Palisades. So for people that don't know, Pacific Palisades, of course, is like right near, it's on your way to Malibu. It's like the last big neighborhood before you get to the- And they're Palisades. They're over the water. Yeah. That's right. And so they have a reservoir.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Why? Because first of all, it's right next to the Pacific Palisades. So for people that don't know, Pacific Palisades, of course, is like right near, it's on your way to Malibu. It's like the last big neighborhood before you get to the- And they're Palisades. They're over the water. Yeah. That's right. And so they have a reservoir.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Why? Because first of all, it's right next to the Pacific Palisades. So for people that don't know, Pacific Palisades, of course, is like right near, it's on your way to Malibu. It's like the last big neighborhood before you get to the- And they're Palisades. They're over the water. Yeah. That's right. And so they have a reservoir.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You look at the Google Maps and you look at where the Santinese Reservoir is, it's right next to like a few thousand feet from Pacific Palisades. And it's above, it's really high up. And so if you had had water coming from that, the firefighters would have had plenty of water. It would not have, they would have had the water pressure, even if you had lost some homes and had those, the water out.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You look at the Google Maps and you look at where the Santinese Reservoir is, it's right next to like a few thousand feet from Pacific Palisades. And it's above, it's really high up. And so if you had had water coming from that, the firefighters would have had plenty of water. It would not have, they would have had the water pressure, even if you had lost some homes and had those, the water out.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

You look at the Google Maps and you look at where the Santinese Reservoir is, it's right next to like a few thousand feet from Pacific Palisades. And it's above, it's really high up. And so if you had had water coming from that, the firefighters would have had plenty of water. It would not have, they would have had the water pressure, even if you had lost some homes and had those, the water out.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So, I mean, so two major reasons.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So, I mean, so two major reasons.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So, I mean, so two major reasons.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

um failures the first was the failure to aggressively respond days in advance even though they had very clear warnings the second was the reservoir was empty one reporter has reported that the that the uh the firefighters had not been warned by the los angeles department of water and power that that reservoir was empty if that's true that's just additionally scandalous but

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

um failures the first was the failure to aggressively respond days in advance even though they had very clear warnings the second was the reservoir was empty one reporter has reported that the that the uh the firefighters had not been warned by the los angeles department of water and power that that reservoir was empty if that's true that's just additionally scandalous but

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

um failures the first was the failure to aggressively respond days in advance even though they had very clear warnings the second was the reservoir was empty one reporter has reported that the that the uh the firefighters had not been warned by the los angeles department of water and power that that reservoir was empty if that's true that's just additionally scandalous but

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

One of the things that we think probably happened is that they had been required to build, have a cover for the clean, for the Santinese Reservoir, which is the potable water, the cover to prevent the water from being contaminated in the old days, like the 50s and 60s. You know, birds would poop in those reservoirs and they would just put a bunch of chlorine in them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

One of the things that we think probably happened is that they had been required to build, have a cover for the clean, for the Santinese Reservoir, which is the potable water, the cover to prevent the water from being contaminated in the old days, like the 50s and 60s. You know, birds would poop in those reservoirs and they would just put a bunch of chlorine in them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

One of the things that we think probably happened is that they had been required to build, have a cover for the clean, for the Santinese Reservoir, which is the potable water, the cover to prevent the water from being contaminated in the old days, like the 50s and 60s. You know, birds would poop in those reservoirs and they would just put a bunch of chlorine in them.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And then we decided, well, that the water was still had a lot of, you know, it still was not not particularly clean. So we wanted to be cleaner. So you just put a cover over it, which is a kind of plastic or rubber lining. it appears that there was a tear in that. They had to repair it. They should not have removed that water ever during a fire season.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And then we decided, well, that the water was still had a lot of, you know, it still was not not particularly clean. So we wanted to be cleaner. So you just put a cover over it, which is a kind of plastic or rubber lining. it appears that there was a tear in that. They had to repair it. They should not have removed that water ever during a fire season.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

And then we decided, well, that the water was still had a lot of, you know, it still was not not particularly clean. So we wanted to be cleaner. So you just put a cover over it, which is a kind of plastic or rubber lining. it appears that there was a tear in that. They had to repair it. They should not have removed that water ever during a fire season.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

If you need to make that repair, you do need to drain right before you do the repair, but you would make that drain. The people that I interviewed said, said, look, it would take days, if not a couple of weeks to repair it. It was empty for at least a year. So it was sitting there for a year.