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Michael Shellenberger

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1526 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Yeah. It's awful. So, but you know, you kind of go, I mean, so first of all, that problem should have been dealt with obviously years ago, it should never have been allowed. So, but that they knew on January 1st, January 2nd, that the fires were coming. Like it was inevitable that there would be fires.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Yeah. It's awful. So, but you know, you kind of go, I mean, so first of all, that problem should have been dealt with obviously years ago, it should never have been allowed. So, but that they knew on January 1st, January 2nd, that the fires were coming. Like it was inevitable that there would be fires.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like there was like zero doubt among anybody that knows anything about fire in Los Angeles, that the fires were coming, the fires were coming. So then like the governor should have been there, the mayor should have been there. Literally, it's all about prevention, in part because by the time the fire trucks are having to weave their way up those little hills of the Pacific Palisades, it's over.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like there was like zero doubt among anybody that knows anything about fire in Los Angeles, that the fires were coming, the fires were coming. So then like the governor should have been there, the mayor should have been there. Literally, it's all about prevention, in part because by the time the fire trucks are having to weave their way up those little hills of the Pacific Palisades, it's over.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like there was like zero doubt among anybody that knows anything about fire in Los Angeles, that the fires were coming, the fires were coming. So then like the governor should have been there, the mayor should have been there. Literally, it's all about prevention, in part because by the time the fire trucks are having to weave their way up those little hills of the Pacific Palisades, it's over.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, so the other thing to keep in mind is thatβ€” Okay, well, so that's the first thing, is that they just have to mobilize in advance.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, so the other thing to keep in mind is thatβ€” Okay, well, so that's the first thing, is that they just have to mobilize in advance.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, so the other thing to keep in mind is thatβ€” Okay, well, so that's the first thing, is that they just have to mobilize in advance.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's why it's so beautiful. Beautiful places are dangerous. That's exactly right. Soβ€” So that's like the main event. I mean, because I knew, my first thing I did is I was like, look, they're going to come out and say it was inevitable. And that's just a total lie. Because of global warming. Yeah, because of global warming and, I mean, anyway, there's so many places to go here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's why it's so beautiful. Beautiful places are dangerous. That's exactly right. Soβ€” So that's like the main event. I mean, because I knew, my first thing I did is I was like, look, they're going to come out and say it was inevitable. And that's just a total lie. Because of global warming. Yeah, because of global warming and, I mean, anyway, there's so many places to go here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It's why it's so beautiful. Beautiful places are dangerous. That's exactly right. Soβ€” So that's like the main event. I mean, because I knew, my first thing I did is I was like, look, they're going to come out and say it was inevitable. And that's just a total lie. Because of global warming. Yeah, because of global warming and, I mean, anyway, there's so many places to go here.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But just on the most practical sense, they knew the fires were coming and they didn't do anything. The mayor leaves the country. She flies to Ghana after having promised not to leave the country, by the way, as mayor. She's traveled at least six times out of the country and she promised not to travel. Why is it important the mayor be there? Aren't there other people in charge?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But just on the most practical sense, they knew the fires were coming and they didn't do anything. The mayor leaves the country. She flies to Ghana after having promised not to leave the country, by the way, as mayor. She's traveled at least six times out of the country and she promised not to travel. Why is it important the mayor be there? Aren't there other people in charge?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

But just on the most practical sense, they knew the fires were coming and they didn't do anything. The mayor leaves the country. She flies to Ghana after having promised not to leave the country, by the way, as mayor. She's traveled at least six times out of the country and she promised not to travel. Why is it important the mayor be there? Aren't there other people in charge?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Because it's a command. It's an emergency command situation. She has to be able to issue orders and to, you know, waive regulations and make things happen. The governor has to be doing that. They didn't do that. They should have had, by the way, they should get the fire trucks up into the fire areas. Right. They can also start, you know, they can start clearing brush.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Because it's a command. It's an emergency command situation. She has to be able to issue orders and to, you know, waive regulations and make things happen. The governor has to be doing that. They didn't do that. They should have had, by the way, they should get the fire trucks up into the fire areas. Right. They can also start, you know, they can start clearing brush.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Because it's a command. It's an emergency command situation. She has to be able to issue orders and to, you know, waive regulations and make things happen. The governor has to be doing that. They didn't do that. They should have had, by the way, they should get the fire trucks up into the fire areas. Right. They can also start, you know, they can start clearing brush.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They can start, you know, but literally they could just be in those neighborhoods just sitting there for days at a time waiting for the fires to happen, put them out as soon as they happen. I'm not saying that they would have been able to prevent all the fires from happening, but you remember like the big fire in 1993, I think it was Laguna Beach.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They can start, you know, but literally they could just be in those neighborhoods just sitting there for days at a time waiting for the fires to happen, put them out as soon as they happen. I'm not saying that they would have been able to prevent all the fires from happening, but you remember like the big fire in 1993, I think it was Laguna Beach.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

They can start, you know, but literally they could just be in those neighborhoods just sitting there for days at a time waiting for the fires to happen, put them out as soon as they happen. I'm not saying that they would have been able to prevent all the fires from happening, but you remember like the big fire in 1993, I think it was Laguna Beach.