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Michael Shellenberger

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1512 total appearances

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The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So the ones that don't have their own fire departments, they depend on LA County Fire Department. And it's been this way for a long time, so it's not like it can't work, but it definitely introduces a level of complexity into it. I mean, the priorities of these fire departments, it's not just like a social media meme. I mean, it really has been DEI.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

So the ones that don't have their own fire departments, they depend on LA County Fire Department. And it's been this way for a long time, so it's not like it can't work, but it definitely introduces a level of complexity into it. I mean, the priorities of these fire departments, it's not just like a social media meme. I mean, it really has been DEI.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, it really has been the priority of these fire departments. The first priority of the fire departments should be to put out fires and keep people safe and save lives. But the first priority has been DEI.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, it really has been the priority of these fire departments. The first priority of the fire departments should be to put out fires and keep people safe and save lives. But the first priority has been DEI.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Like, it really has been the priority of these fire departments. The first priority of the fire departments should be to put out fires and keep people safe and save lives. But the first priority has been DEI.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I mean, what are the chances, right? That like all three of these executives are, I mean... You know, it's like it's also sort of like I mean, it's it's funny because the way that the the defenders of it sort of talk about it is as though they're imposing equality. Actually, they're demanding that that it not be based on merit.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I mean, what are the chances, right? That like all three of these executives are, I mean... You know, it's like it's also sort of like I mean, it's it's funny because the way that the the defenders of it sort of talk about it is as though they're imposing equality. Actually, they're demanding that that it not be based on merit.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, I mean, what are the chances, right? That like all three of these executives are, I mean... You know, it's like it's also sort of like I mean, it's it's funny because the way that the the defenders of it sort of talk about it is as though they're imposing equality. Actually, they're demanding that that it not be based on merit.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, first of all, there was never any evidence that the fire departments were like systematically or structurally excluding qualified people. I mean, it's not to say that never happened. There wasn't some racism. I mean, of course there is. But it's like. They got into a situation where people are getting promoted who were not as qualified as other people on basis of race.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

I mean, that is anathema to the American system. And by the way, the people of California have now twice rejected racial preferences. One of them in 1996, I believe, and then the other, again, in 20—was it 2018, I believe?

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

Well, yeah, and they haven't. No, they haven't. I mean, the spirit of California, I mean, there's a true spirit of California that I do think is very American, which is really egalitarianism. I mean, the American creed, If you believe Daniel Bell's analysis of it, you know, it's liberty, it's laissez-faire, it's individualism, and it's egalitarianism. That's the state I grew up in.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.

The Tucker Carlson Show
Tucker Carlson and Michael Shellenberger Break Down the California Fires

It was the most American of all states. That's right. It's not equity. It's equality of opportunity.